Official Bible Interpretation Thread

As the dope would say, perhaps I'm not being snide at all but it is you who are snide and are just seeing your own snideness in my comments.

 

thedope, you've attached, or suggested, significance to God having caused Adam to fall into a deep sleep while no other passage tells of a re-awakening. Am I correct in thinking that this unchanged atate of man is as what you describe as the 'dream of seperation'?

Other religions sometimes refer to the seperation of the conscious mind from the subconscious (the consciousness of the soul) as a 'dropping of the veil'. By universal law, or God's law, existence in the lower corporeal state necessitates this seperation.

But, it is all a matter of perception - of mind force. Since everything that is exists within the mind of God, seperation is an aspect of perception rather than a true seperation.

So, in recording that God caused a deep sleep to Adam, this is the bible's way of referring to the dropping of the veil - or the dream of seperation?

 

Because he put us to "sleep" in the first place.

 

Got it. It leads to the conclusion also that He created us in the first place.

 

Yes

Yes

Yes

We can see that we imagine ourselves separate from each other and our good.

 

You'll have to show me, because I don't believe that that is so. If it is I would like to see it.

 

I actually used to believe as you do.

Fact is you are asking me how can it be. I am not trying to defend anything. Again I am positing an interpretation.

No waterbrother the dream began before the deep sleep. Even though it is written at once god saw that man needed a companion, after eve is made adam says finally flesh of my flesh. It was man who imagined himself alone. The question wake up from what, from the dream of separation, it is still going on.
No it does not inexorably lead to that conclusion. It was mans dream to begin with and a dream is not a reality.

 

Substance please

 

substance please

 

Substance please

 

The son of man is authorized to forgive sins.

Substance please

Substance please

 

Yes

 

Substance please

 

Substance please

 

Substance please

 

Substance please

Gibberish

 

Well, he created Adam before he put him to sleep, the actual reasoning is that if God had not put Adam to sleep then there have never been the "dream of separation" thus God would be responsible for the "dream of separation" and God is to Blame.

 

Why? It's there for you to read.

 

Actually that is your reasoning.

The mind is powerful. We speak into the world conditions for ourselves. There are no idle thoughts. The creation stories are allegorical and metaphorical depicting extant conditions. God is not to blame for anything.

What are the extant conditions. We find ourselves at odds, separate from our good. It is not the truth. We are alive and it is a miracle of god that this is so.
But to what shall I compare this generation it is like children sitting in the marketplaces and calling to their playmates, we piped to you and you did not dance, we wailed and you did not mourn.

Following your line of reasoning waterbrother, God is responsible for sin because God created man.