Official Bible Interpretation Thread

In the Bible the creator of the universe is God with a capital "G", whereas god with a lower case "g" is used for those mighty ones who are not the creator such as in "the god of this system of things".

So I was just pointing out that, I recognize god (the god of this system of things) in his children and I also recognize God (the creator of the universe) in his children.

 

What the hey? The "god of this system of things"? So you're saying there are other deities, but Yahweh is just the Creator? So who is the "god of this system of things?"

 

The Bible is “one word”, it is the word of God.

The Bible is right and those who agree with the Bible are right. So no, my position only makes me right when I agree with the Bible and anyone else who agrees with the Bible is also right and that means that, no, not everyone else is wrong, just those who don’t agree with the Bible.

Arrogance? I would say that those who disagree with God and the Bible and call it the truth, are the ones that are truly arrogant.

If it is truly “fine” with you, why do you spend so much time disagreeing with it?

I sure hope that the abundance of my heart comes out in my speech.

Once again it is not my interpretation, it is merely what the Bible says. As for abiding what the Bible says, no, not everyone can abide it.

So are you saying you have made yourself a eunuch for the sake of the kingdom of heaven?

Your sayings aren’t even consistent with themselves, let a lone with the Bible. Which is a pretty good sign that it is not the “Holy Spirit” teaching you these things.

I have never told anyone that my interpretation is the only one that is true. I have always said that there is only one true interpretation of the Bible but it is not my interpretation, it is God’s.

Couch the saying? First there is no punctuation in the original Greek so what was said was: "truly I say to you today you will be with me in paradise." So that means that the punctuation can be put either before or after the word “today”. Since I have already pointed out that there are numerous scriptures that say Jesus was not resurrected for at least three days, there is no way Jesus could have been in paradise with the man he said this to on the very same day as he said it. No couching involved just going with what the Bible actually says on the matter.

 

No.

Yes.

It means that God can remember who we were at the time of death and can resurrect us as the person we were.

 

I guess that means you missed the part where Jesus said to love your enemies.

What sign? Aren't you the one that was saying that only the wicked look for a sign?

No the dream at night is not a state of attention, because you are asleep.

Yes, I do sometimes make points by asking questions but I also point things out and provide substantiation for what I say. As for you answering questions, you may be "answering" but seldom do they actually address the questions.

 

She'ol is just the original transliterated Hebrew word that the KJV often translates as hell.

 

In the first place I did not say you misinterpreted scriptures, I said you interpreted scriptures, just as everyone does when they read them, when they keep the sayings, when they see the principles reflected in their lives.
An example of you interpreting scripture is your view of the statement on the cross that Jesus will see the criminal that day in paradise. You think it can't possibly mean what it says because according to your theology Jesus is "supposed" to be unconsciously dead.

But as I demonstrate here there is another way of regarding these things shone me by the holy spirit as I did not have access to the accumulated theological library that you draw on.

What is written describes the state of the physical body for three days. The reason the body is dead is because it was to god that he had commended his spirit.
His body was dead, his spirit with his father. He appeared glorified to his disciples after three days. It is the spirit that animates the body. the spirit does not remain with the body that is why the body dies. His body was dead and it was reanimated, that is what is miraculous about it.

John 14:26 But the counselor the holy spirit whom the father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
Perhaps that is all things that the holy spirit teaches.

No, it means that some things were included and some things not.

Actually to be created in the image and likeness of god is not the same thing as being fashioned from dust unless of course you think that someone fashioned god from dust and breathed life into him.

God see the world as he created it, we do not. We see nightmares and react to nightmares creating more nightmares but nightmares are the stuff of dreams.

There is only one god that I know of.

I am serious, please try and comprehend the answer.

I have no need for assumptions, I have the experience.

Do you believe? To believe is a visionary state, to envision something. We are in visionary states all the time.
Let the mind be in you that is in Christ Jesus. Again, no need for assumptions or corroborating evidence.

Jesus is christ and christ is also the truth about you.

John 12:44 And Jesus cried out and said, he who believes in me believes not in me but in him who sent me.

 

John 12:32 and I when I am lifted up from the earth will draw all men to myself.

 

Oh, I apologize waterbrother only you and those who agree with you are right. I know gods word as a living word.

Like I said.

I am teaching as I am taught, if you find that disagreeable you can disagree I guess.

The brain doesn't keep up, you mean well.

no

Where have you shown this?

Why would god need to interpret what god said? To you, your interpretation is gods interpretation.

Yes couch the saying. The very process of cross referencing for meaning fits the definition of interpretation.
If there is no punctuation in the Greek then there is no punctuation in the Greek. The canonized bible has a punctuation mark. Do you read Greek?
How did you know there was no punctuation in the Greek? Did they draw from only one copy of the manuscript?

 

This is from post #800. I am revisiting this because I'm feeling it is important to comprehend.

I wrote:
To say that the potential exists in every moment is to affirm the reality of it, not to deny it. "No one knows the hour."


You respond:

"No, to say to the potential exists does not affirm the reality of it,it merely affirms the possibility of it, as opposed to the actual reality of it. When God prophesies that something will happen in the future or that it is "soon to take place", we are assured of its reality not of it’s potential." (my emphasis)

In my statement I use the word, exists. Only what exists is real. What does not exist is not real. To say that something exists is to confirm in speech the reality of it. The hour has not come therefore the hour in question remains potential until it happens. There is the potential in every single moment for the hour in question to emerge. Be watchful therefore.

 

They aren't creator God, they are to describe a multiplicity of power or majesty. Like how a politician may have power over those that voted for him, or a tyrannical leader may have power over the nation he rules. They aren't deities in respect to how God is a deity. In Christianity, Jehovah/Yahweh is the only true deity (God had power over the so-called gods in the Egyptian pantheon by controlling things that the other so-called gods were said to have power over), but if mass people follow someone, then they are called an elohim (lowercase or false one). There is also the spirit behind the worship. Someone, to use an example, who praises mother Teresa would have a different spirit of worship from someone who praises Pol Pot; and the spirit behind mother Teresa would be different from the spirit behind Pol Pots actions. Some lead down to either Satan (or possibly someone else) or God as the God behind either of these two individuals, and whoever praises them also praises the originator of the spirit behind their actions. I.E. if we praise Pol Pot actions, we are praising satan. If we praise mother Teresa actions then we are praising God.

Who is the God of this system of things?

Satan is described as the ruler of this world at some instances in scripture.

The Three Categories of Elohim:

"These charges of polytheism come from different directions, but should be addressed together in the same subject category, for they are linked. Let's start with the charge that Elohim itself indicates a multiplicity. This charge is refuted by the fact that Elohim, though a plural form, was paired with verbs in the singular -- thus indicating not a multiplicity of beings, but a multiplicity of power or majesty. (Whether this melds with a Trinitarian vision is beyond our scope; I would say that it does, but that there is no evidence for a three-part entity here.)"


http://www.tektonics.org/lp/monoelohim.html

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheGenuineChristian#p/c/553CFFB0237DBA96/20/3EFSOaOxfYM

 

I hate to be a stickler about things; but, one of the 10 commandments was all about not putting other gods before Him. Note Deutonomy 5:7.
Deut. 5: 7-9 talks (imo) about how serious this offense is. That being said, it would certainly appear that there are/were other gods...but definitely lesser, and not The God, Yahwey, Jehovah, or Master Creator (as I like to say).

 

Here is were the root definition of the word god comes in handy. The word god at it's root means that which is invoked. We simply turn to god before anything else and in emotional terms a false god could be anything. Perhaps even a morsel of food highly desired.

 

by the power of the twix bar shall they be rent asunder and driven from the land

 

This does happen as famine can cause disruption and migration.

 

My mistake, most people consider "dream sleep" to be part of normal sleep but as usual you don't seem to agree with most people.

 

Why yes it does and that is what we are discussing. Did you lose track of that?

So are you saying that those in Paradise are conscious of nothing at all and that there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom there?

Yes he appeared after three days and that was because he was dead and not yet been make alive in the spirit.

True, you evidently don't believe what the Bible says about death.

 

What people sometimes fail to note is what the word god means.

The Hebrew word translated “God” is ’El, meaning “Mighty One; Strong One”, that is why the true God is called the almighty and no one else is called that.

So, really, anything that is worshiped can be termed a god, inasmuch as the worshiper attributes to it might greater than his own and venerates it. A person can even let his belly be a god. (Ro 16:18; Php 3:18, 19) The Bible makes mention of many gods (Ps 86:8; 1Co 8:5, 6), but it shows that the gods of the nations are valueless gods and that here is only one true almighty God, the creator of the universe.

That is one of the reasons that when you are worshipping a god you need to be specific about which god you are praying to and which god you are listening to.

 

No.

No

So Jesus was walking around dead and unconscious while he was speaking to his disciples three days after being crucified?

 

Thanks for clarifying. If you'd said "false gods". I'd have understood immediately, and now that you've explained, I agree completely. I think the prohibition against idolatry is the first commandment for a reason.