Oh Jesus doan want no free thinkers roun here....

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Geriatric Delinquent, Dec 23, 2010.

  1. Geriatric Delinquent

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    Apparently you are not American. Otherwise you would see how apt "Politics is obligation or reverence" is to what passes as politics up there in the Protestant Reich. And how true "Religion is shrewdness, tact, and cunning" (and ridiculous Razzamatazz) is for what passes as religion.....:)
     
  2. thedope

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    I was born in the united states however my nationality is purely a default position.

    Nationalism, which is not the same as politics, is devotion to the state and is in practical content, a religion. It is not very shrewd, tactful, or cunning to give up your power of ascent for any cause.

    Politic as well as religion can be responsible to best practices. There is nothing inherently suspicious in either one.
     
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  4. RooRshack

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    I would have to contend that they are both suspicious. Just because they CAN be practiced in sanity and moderation, doesn't mean that that's likely the case. A christian or muslim, or strong nationalist, is MUCH more likely to be violent, delusional, stupid, and to generally make undesirable company, than an agnostic or atheist, in my experiance.
     
  5. Geriatric Delinquent

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    You're dead right, Roo. Both attribute uncommon powers to very common men.
     
  6. thedope

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    I would note that anyone's experience is limited.
    Don't forget market capitalists, environmentalists, or jilted lovers, and there is even degeneration as a result of academic inbreeding. Everyone is capable of misapprehension. I think the primary delusional instrument is the idea that you can own land.
     
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    Spades are trumps, what is false by definition is not true.
     
  8. RooRshack

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    Yes, of course we don't "own" anything, but it's an illusion that's highly important to being human, it's the reason we're not hunter gatherers today, this illusion of ownership. While we may not own those molecules, we do have the ability to buy the right to control matter and real-estate in the human sense, and that's good enough for me.... I am, after all, human, and as I said, this thought structure is literally what made us do so much better than our close primate relatives.

    (well tools/ownership, and communication skills.... Once we got those, they improved our brains, if that makes sense... No matter how sharp, a human mind without having learned a language lacks the ability to devise many of the things we have, it allows us to quantify and qualify things in ways we otherwise could not do in any useful, generally applicable manner.... but this is a rather different subject entirely, I'm rambling)
     
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    I think it is our brains that give the advantage, not the idea of property. I don't think owning things is important to being human. I think it is important to the current economic system but we might say the system is for man not man for the system. It can be changed.

    Nutrition is the brains best friend although practice with mental muscle, strengthens mental muscle. Our bodies are naturally adapted to language, it is not something that we discovered but it is inherent biological equipment. If there were no language to learn then we would develop one.

    But yes, our ability to think with symbols is a great advantage. It is the abstract or symbol using quality of the mind that makes it possible to imagine discrete systems.
     
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