Oh, the games people play:-((((((

sad for you:-(((((( confused you are.......

indeed, your words are you, and your response deems you a liar.......

as to "she/he's", there are two examples that have posted on this
thread....... unsubmitted, rebellious females, mostly lesbian in nature
and possessed by a manipulative spirit....... no longer "women", a
new breed, the creation of the "crotch mentality" male and the
insecurity of a woman without a spiritual man to care for her.......

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco

 

"i" am also "confused" and as well "spiritually adrift"...
i have been a member of a "tradtional" "christian" "denomination" founded by a "heretical" roman catholic priest (augustinian order) from germany 500 years ago, a certain dr. martin luther...
and he was one of these "trinitarians" who believed that this so-called "jesus" fella was one of three "persons of the trinity" --- yeah, yeah, i know, it's a "mystery" to me as well...
anyways, due to decades of "brainwashing" by my "tribe", i'm sure that i fit into you "deluded hordes" catecory...
so please tell me how wrong i am (along with 99% of "so-called christians", & prolly 100% of pretty much "everybody else", right?) so i can sleep at night, OK father franscisco?

thank you so much... i am at peace with my delusions now... & "the voices" don't bother me as much... (the aluminum foil in the hat did help, thanks for the suggestion...)

 

Ohh wise one, in God's great wisdom, God has revealed to you the things that us lesser creations cannot fathom. What do you, the living proof of God's infinite wisdom, the last prophet of the ages, have to reveal to us about these wordly institutional processes and their evils?

While God has you to reveal God's wisdom to others, there is hope. I praise the God that created you, ohh great one.

Your wisdom is too much for a lesser creation, such as myself, to understand. Alas, I hope it is not lost to all that read your words, the words that the infinite God has placed in your soul to reveal God's ways to us lesser beings. I am amazed that God would lead one of your spiritual stature and wealth to talk to lowly spirits such as us. It is like God is once again sacrificing that which God holds most dear to bring the rest of us into God's glorious presence.

I praise the God that created such wisdom as yours, ohh great one. Will there ever be another like you? One as great as you in spiritual wisdom? What wealth God has given us to have you as a teacher!

 

just read your own words, they will tell you how wrong you are.......

you are indeed a part of the joke that is "christianity":-((((((

as to martin luther? he always remained a pagan priest!

yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope for you and others held captive by pagan "christianity".......

hope that you would quit serving "time" in the prison that is this world.

hope that you would begin serving The ONLY TRUE GOD, Father of ALL"!

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

sad for you khar:-((((((

yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco

 

I'm no liar - you are just arrogant and have an extremely bigoted mind, as the remainder of your post shows clearly.

I am quite sick of reading this muck you post here, and my advice to you is to seek medical help. (of the psychiatric kind)

 

you are sick indeed:-((((((

medical help? that wouldn't help you either. would just hide your sickness
all the more as your imagination was soothed by physcho's doctors of death.

yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope that you would seek help from the Author of Help!

hope that you would heed HIS Call to:

"Come out of her, MY people......."

hope that you would "come out" of this wicked, evil world and
it's systems of religion, especially the pagan harlot the calls
herself "christianity".......

those who have "come out" know where their help comes from.......

from The Father of Mercy! HalleluYah!!

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco

 

Poor little Francisco, not seeing the beauty in others, instead looking through eyes of sadness upon the wonderful creations of God. You will be sad for others until you have faith in God, little one. It'll be all right sweetheart. I love you.

Not if you keep repeating yourself. If you talk like you write...

 

sad for you khar:-((((((

yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco

 

There are three that bare record in heaven, the Father, the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one. God exist eternally as three persons, but one God. As Jesus said, know one comes to the Father but by Me. And Jesus also said, if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father.
The Bible clearly teaches that God the Father made all things alone and by Himself, the Bible also teaches that Jesus made all things. So Francisco, which one made all things? If Jesus and the Father do not exist as one God, then it is clear someone is lying. Remember, the Bible clearly teaches that the Father made all things alone and by Himself. So did Jesus make all things, or was it the Father? Looking forward to your answer.

 

appreciate the tenor of your words.......

i prefer not to answer, for The Answer has already been recorded.......
yet seems you are sincere and so i hope the few quotes i will respond
with will enlighten and cause you to ? "trinitorial" theo'ry'ology.

yet prior to quoting the answer, i would propose a question?

if what i believe is not in perfect harmony with all within The
Testimonies, then am i willing to stop "teaching" that which
would but confuse others?

as to your ?

Testimony concerning The Messiah reveals that He was:

"the beginning of The Creation of The Only True GOD".......
and yes, when The Messiah testified of The ONLY TRUE GOD.......
The Messiah bore witness to the ONE who Created Him.......

"the first-born among many Brethren."
"a servant of The Only True GOD."
"the first-born of every creature(creation)."

and "The Only True GOD said, "Let there be LIGHT, and there was LIGHT".

and "The Messiah was that true LIGHT which enlightens every man
born into this world."

and The Messiah testified: "that they might know YOU,
The ONLY TRUE GOD and Me Whom YOU have sent".......

and the apostle paul bore witness to:

"The ONE(and ONLY TRUE) GOD, Father of ALL".......

and "The ONLY TRUE GOD was in The Messiah".......

"The ONLY TRUE GOD is The HEAD of The Messiah,
and The Messiah is The Head of the man,
and the man is the head of the woman"........

yet there is Oneness! for as there was, is and always
will be ONLY ONE TRUE GOD, so also there was, is, and
always will be Only One True Messiah, and they are One.

United, Unified, Undivided, yet so are all others in The
Family of GOD, The Family of One, yet there remains
but ONLY ONE TRUE GOD, Father of ALL!

"godliness", to be "godlike", is not to be The ONLY TRUE GOD,
it is to be liken unto HIM.......

and all in HIS Family, as The Messiah, desire above all else:

"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

and while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope that there would be those who take heed unto
The Call of The ONLY TRUE GOD to:

"Come out of her, MY people......."

hope that there would be those who would "forsake all" and
"come out" of this wicked, evil world and it's systems of
religions. and especially "catholicism" and her harlot pagan
daughters that call themselves "christianity" for because of
them "The Way of Truth is evil spoken of".......

hope that there would be those who would "receive a love
of The Truth that they might be saved".......

hope that there would be those who, as The Messiah did,
would desire above all else:

"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco

 

The reason you prefer not to give a clear answer is because you can't. That's why I said I look forward to your answer, knowing it was a question you would refuse to answer. If you have anything to do with the watch tower, that question stops them everytime. And it stops them not because of their Bible, but because of their doctrine that does not agree with the Bible. The only way the Father could make everything alone and by Himself, and Jesus could of made all things to, is if they were a triune God, which the Watchtower does not believe in. So the question stands. Did Jesus make all things, or did the Father make all things? Or was one of them not telling the truth? I have found with those from the Watch Tower, that they flood you with all kinds of information when they can't answer a question only to confuse the issue. If you say that question has already been answered, then tell me. If your doctrine is correct, that question should be an easy one to answer. Did the Father make all things, or did Jesus?

 

interesting the you reject The Answer, and then say The Answer was not
given, yet that is to be expected of one held captive by pagan "christianity".

may you one day receive The Answer.......

and the jw's, well they have their own form of "strong delusion".......

yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope that all souls held captive by the religious systems of this world
would heed The Call of The ONLY TRUE GOD to":

"Come out of her, MY people......."

all who "come out" will set their affections on things above", and as
The Messiah so also will they "serve The ONLY TRUE GOD" as they
desire above all else, "Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

simply, "The Way to The Truth of The Life".......

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

Did you know that Cara means friend in Irish Gaelic? Just wondered......

 

Francisco, did Jesus create all things, or did the Father create all things?
Tell me, who created all things, was it the Father, or was it Jesus. If you can't give me one of their names, then you aren't being honest with me or yourself. WHICH ONE OF THEM, CREATED ALL THINGS__________________?

 

once again, you reject The Answer, and then say The Answer was not
given, yet that is to be expected of one held captive by pagan "christianity".

The Answer was revealed in the first response.

may you one day receive The Answer.......

while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope that all souls held captive by the religious systems of this world
would heed The Call of The ONLY TRUE GOD to":

"Come out of her, MY people......."

all who "come out" will set their affections on things above", and as
The Messiah so also will they "serve The ONLY TRUE GOD" as they
desire above all else, "Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

simply, "The Way to The Truth of The Life".......

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

Thanks, I didn't.

 

Francisco, the reason you refuse to say Jesus, or the Father created all things is because your doctrine or your traditions are more important to you, than the Word of God. If your religion was true, saying Jesus or the Father should be a simple matter. But you can't say it, and you won't say it because you do not believe the Father made all things alone and by Himself. What you are saying by your silence is that the Bible is not true, otherwise you would of stated one of their names. But your tradition will not allow you to do that. Which fulfills another scripture. The traditions of men have made the Word of God null and void. If you can't give me one of those names don't even bother to tell me about the way of truth. You can't even speak the truth on a minor passage of scripture. And until you give me one of their names, you will not of given me the truth on any of your responces.

 

first, "jesus" did not die for me, The Messiah did.......period.......

if you would use the modern day english transliteration of The Messiah's
GOD given Name at birth that would be Joshua.......

yet i prefer the Name He was called after His Baptism of The Great Spirit,
Immanuel, for indeed "Our Father was in The Messiah reconciling the
world unto Himself". and as for the religious systems of this world? they
vainly attempt to reconcile "god" unto this world....... naught but
"strong delusion".......

and your "religion" won't allow you to "see" The Answer given in
my first response, because i did not believe it was necessary to
"answer" the way you wanted me to. seemed a bit "pharisee" like
to me.

as to "tradition" seems that holds you captive, for "religion" and
religious "tradition" go hand in hand. and so the need for you to
"use" the name 'jesus':-((((((

hopefully simplicity will open "the eye of your understanding" and allow
you to "see" and accept The Answer in my first response.

"The Messiah, the beginning of the creation of The ONLY TRUE GOD"!

now if The Messiah was "the beginning of the creation", He could not
have "created all things"?

and "THE ONLY TRUE GOD, HE Is Father of ALL"!

and while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope that all souls held captive by the religious systems of this world
would heed The Call of The ONLY TRUE GOD to":

"Come out of her, MY people......."

all who "come out" will set their affections on things above", and as
The Messiah so also will they "serve The ONLY TRUE GOD" as they
desire above all else, "Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

simply, "The Way to The Truth of The Life".......

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco

 

Ok, did Immanuel make all things, or did the Father make all things? And as I said, the reason you cannot answer me, is because your doctrine is wrong. Yet if you believed the Bible, it would be a simple question for you to answer.
So who made all things Francisco, was it Immanuel, or the Father?