Years ago, I knew a college professor who would set up a booth at the state fair, for the organization "Handgun Control". He told me that many folks would come by, stop, talk, and tell him they supported his cause. He told me they lacked the motivation of the typical NRA member, and would never actually join Handgun Control. They just talked to him. Remember that. Remember how imortant motivation is. Especially when you hear a "radical" tell you US election outcomes don't matter.
Apparently there were several other mass shootings in the USA that day. If the culprits didnt all have the same affiliation Mally's post (and esp. the pic in it) is crap anyway.
I would Say yes ! if someone is Buying it For home Defense its unlikely ( though not Impossible ) that an innocent person will get Hurt ! Do You think The Shooter was asked at The Gun store why He wanted so many Bullets ? In the Uk there is a Limit to How many you can Keep
In such situations, when people are appearing to be nice and friendly and interested in getting to know you, it's often nothing more than attempt to use you to their own advantage. One of the most extreme examples I can think of is churches in the American South. Everybody smiles at you, shakes your hand, and says they're happy to see you, but the back stabbing and cynical manipulation behind the scenes never ends. All the church leaders are 100% fake. The most depressing part is that any attempt to opt out of the system is perceived as nothing but weakness and/or laziness. Even in the hippy part of town, usually the arts district, all the conversations eventually turn competitive. You know... my stuff is cooler than your stuff, my friends are bigger nonconformists than your friends, I have more books on anti-establishment topics than you do, I meditate more than you, value money less, etc. They have no idea how much they're Americanizing the whole thing. If you have no idea how to have a true friend, it's so easy to see everyone as a potential enemy.
First of all I know you like your guns, Second you don't live in the USA. With that out of the way, every time there is one of these nationally publicized mass shootings in the States all those "good guys with guns" assholes arm up, they buy more guns, buy as many rounds of ammo they can afford because they are all going to "save the day". BULLSHIT! It doesn't happen that way... Rambo was a fucking movie, not a documentary. John Wayne was an actor... Die Hard is fantasy. All that these IDIOTS with guns over here in the States are going to accomplish by owing a high capacity 30 round assault rifle and a gazillion rounds of ammo for it (for home protection) is eventually kill someone. More often than not that "someone" will not be a criminal attempting harm. But, the law says it's okay, so they arm up... Some weekends around here in rural USA sounds like fuckin Nam on steroids. None of these fucking lunatics know what they are shooting at, they just shoot.... Don't matter that there's a house over there with a kid playing in the backyard or some guy mowing his lawn... Just fucking shoot, and it's all perfectly legal. Now, Mally. I know you are a good guy, and I know you have guns... But the whole "Good guy with guns" deal in the States is bullshit not based on reality.
Ha Ha I never Said Any of Those things Mate ! What I said was that It DOES Matter Who is Buying Bullets and For What :unsure: Also I have No Idea What The Average American ( or American Gun Owner Thinks ) Yes I like to think I am a good Guy TY For That
You wouldn't drive like a reckless maniac in a town without speed limits, would you? I sure hope not. Even in a world of speed limits, road accidents and fatalities still occur. So should we take motorized vehicles away from people to prevent all possible injury and death? Just because we can't trust anyone except the government, military, and police to use them properly?
Teenagers would. Trusting people to do the right thing is what has gotten us where we are today. This is a pointless debate. You've made up your mind that it's very important not to have gun control, and it's very important to me that we have it. Instead of wasting time rehashing the same old talking points, we need to be working against each other as hard as we can on the political front. Do you make a living selling guns? Every post you make on this seems to be based on an assumption that the law's first priority should be to see to it that massive numbers of guns are sold in the future. Not about saving lives.
How was Karen's reasonable when it's a talking point that comes from the belief that only government and regulations can protect us from the boogyman? I say these terrorist attacks, regardless their weapons of choice, have more to do with Islam's violence and intolerance problems. I don't know why the left keeps putting muslims on their victim list when in fact they wanna kill or imprison everyone else on that list. Yes, I acknowledge there are muslims out there who don't practice the violence their religion teaches them. I in fact live with my roommate who is a muslim from Western Africa, and he despises ISIS and doesn't believe in Sharia Law. But many muslim nations around the world are still very homophobic and androcentric, and practice Sharia Law. So much so that middle eastern pilots won't listen to female air traffic controlers. And many Syrian refugees in Germany don't want any healthcare from female doctors.
No, I'm not one of those types of gun nuts who believes everyone must carry a gun. I don't believe government should provide every person with a gun either. If a person doesn't wanna own a gun, that's up to them.
What "boogyman" are you referring to? Do you mean to say that government has no obligation to protect its citizens? Is Islam the only religion with violence and intolerance problems? I hope you aren't singling out Islam as the only religion that has sanctioned violence. I don't understand this. What victim list is the left putting Muslims on? Who wants to kill or imprison everyone else on that list and who are the others on the list? I understand about Sharia Law but if we want to criticize those who practice it in its various forms we should also look at our own house. If we compare Sharia Law to fundamental Christians we will find many similarities (in general). Both believe their holy book is the literal word of God. Both hand pick sections of their holy book and ignore other sections. Both believe only they are right and everyone else is wrong. Both tend to force their will on others. Both think that women should be subservient to men, abortion is murder, and homosexuality is against God's will and should be illegal. Both are against contraception and believe it should be illegal. Both believe education should be faith based not science based. Both talk of their fear of Democratically elected governments and frequently stockpile weapons to fight that government, (especially the U.S. government.) And both claim to be persecuted by everyone else. So maybe we should keep everything in perspective.
Hey MeAgain, remember that time that Christian wouldn't bake a cake for a gay couple? My oh my what an atrocity that was! Muslims murdering gay couples in night clubs PALES in comparison to not baking cakes for gay weddings. [/sarcasm]
Lol please. America's home defense guns are not the sole thing standing in the way of the most powerful government and most sophisticated military in the world.
It has an obligation. But you cannot always rely on it to protect you when you need it. Of course not. All religions have tolerance problems. Some worse than others. A supposed "victimhood hierarchy" that lists off certain people, cultures, and ethnicities that have become politically incorrect to criticize in the 21st century.
For the first time ever, the US Senate is having a filibuster in favor of gun control! Even the NRA is dropping hints that they may be willing to bend this time and allow some new regulations!
