Our Next P.M.

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  1. Captain Scarlet

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    I think your in good company with Vlad there .

    I think she is his local MP
     
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  2. Moonbeam23

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    No Captain S, I wish she was, but it does not matter I like to see her as PM.
     
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  3. Vladimir Illich

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    Absolutely right matey, Dr Caroline Lucas and I correspond on a fairly frequent basis.
     
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  4. Moonbeam23

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    Nice to hear that. We will get a chance to decide who is the next PM
     
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  5. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    One can only hope that people vote with their conscience and not just say they will.
    Realistically, as a PM. i think we are a few years away from (people voting Green) that, however, I hope that a significant number of MP are elected - and actions see real change
     
  6. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't think Vlad would be a fan however - given his attitude to sleaze
    "In 2020, Caroline Lucas was found guilty of breaching the Code of Conduct for MPs by offering of a 30-minute "personal guided tour" of the House of Commons for a "donation" which was used for the party General Election fund"
     
  7. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    Sound familiar??
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  9. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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  11. Moonbeam23

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    No wrong, they vote because they are intelligent enough to understand politics and vote for the correct politicians. I can remember ignorant people making comments about the Green party in Germany, it did not take many years that they had a Green Party foreign secretary in German politics. Changes are possible.
     
  12. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    Hmm, if I am wrong, then I can only presume that - from what you are saying - is that the Tories are the right Party to lead the Country, because the people voted them in following intelligent consideration ??.
     
  13. Moonbeam23

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    Wrong again
     
  14. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    They are your words,.
    Still you are entitled to your opinion, even if they are not substantiated by fact/s
     
  16. Vladimir Illich

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    :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

    And by your own admission you consider that stupid bastard Johnson intelligent ??? - well that says it all all doesn't it !!!
     
  17. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    Not My words Vlad, if you read the posts again you will see that comment was that of Moonbeam's - take it up with them!
     
  18. Vladimir Illich

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    Which pails into insignificance when compared to the amount of sleaze emanating from the scumbag 'nasty leaze party' government !!!

    I wonder if there are any scumbag 'nasty sleaze party' MPs or Cabinet ministers with financial interests in Randox ??? - that would be an enquiry to pursue wouldn't it ???




    Impossible to have confidence Randox contracts were awarded properly – MPs

    Martina Bet, PA Political Staff
    27 July 2022, 0:01 am
    “Woefully inadequate” record-keeping by the Government makes it “impossible” to have confidence that all its Covid-19 testing contracts with Randox were awarded properly, MPs have said.

    In a highly critical report, the Commons Public Accounts Committee (PAC), which assesses value for public money, accused the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) of failing in its duties to be “transparent” about meetings that ministers had with Randox Laboratories.

    The MPs also said “basic civil service practices to document contract decision-making were not followed”.

    When the pandemic hit, ministers were forced to act quickly to scale up testing capacity, working with the private sector to secure the necessary services and supplies.

    As part of these efforts, between January 2020 and December 2021, the DHSC and Public Health England (PHE) awarded 22 contracts to health company Randox, or its strategic partner, Qnostics, with a maximum value of £776.9 million.

    However, the cross-party committee of MPs said it is “impossible to have confidence” that the contracts – many without competition – “were awarded properly”.

    The report stated: “Woefully inadequate record-keeping by the department makes it impossible to have confidence that all its contracts with Randox were awarded properly.”

    It added: “Even allowing for the exceptional circumstances at the start of the pandemic, basic civil service practices to document contract decision-making were not followed.

    “The department further failed in its duties to be transparent about meetings that its ministers had with Randox.

    “The potential for conflicts of interest was obvious, but the department neglected to explicitly consider conflicts of interest in its awarding of contracts to Randox.”

    Furthermore, the report highlighted that following the initial £132 million contract – awarded with no competition and without any performance measures – Randox struggled to deliver the expected level of testing capacity.

    Despite this, the Government “still awarded Randox a contract extension worth £328 million seven months later, again without competition”.

    Randox saw a hundred-fold increase in its profits in the year to June 2021 – but the Government did not consider supplier profit margins or the potential for excess profits in its decision-making on the contracts, MPs said.

    The Labour chairwoman of the Public Accounts Committee, Dame Meg Hillier, said: “The NAO (National Audit Office) has been careful to stress that it has not seen any evidence that the Government’s contracts with Randox were awarded improperly.

    “But then, in the case of the hundreds of millions of pounds of contracts awarded to Randox there was precious little evidence to see.

    “Much of the business was won without any competing tenders from companies who may have had better capacity to deliver, perhaps without the upfront capital.

    “Add to that the failure to include any performance measures in the first contract, or any protection against excess profits, and this looks less like just the rushed policy and contract-making that we’ve seen across so much of the Government’s response to the pandemic.

    “We repeatedly hear the reference to the crisis we were facing as a nation. But acting fast doesn’t mean acting fast and loose. There is truth in the adage about ‘opportunities in a crisis’ but I don’t think this is what was in mind.”

    The report made several recommendations, including suggesting that the DHSC should, in its Treasury minute response, set out how “it intends to strengthen its transparency processes and ensure that it enforces requirements and takes action where they are not followed”.

    A Randox spokesman said the PAC report was “deeply flawed and wrong in assumptions it makes and the conclusions it draws” and said the firm had issued a legal complaint.

    “As the UK’s largest diagnostic company, with four decades of experience, over 2,000 professional staff on hand at the start of the pandemic and more than £350 million of prior investment in diagnostic and engineering innovation, Randox was uniquely situated to respond to the national need when Covid-19 emerged in early 2020,” the spokesman said.

    “In supporting the UK’s urgent requirement for coronavirus testing, Randox reacted with speed, efficiency and flexibility in delivering value.”

    The spokesman said the firm processed over 25 million samples and “played a crucial role in keeping vital elements of the UK economy functioning during lockdowns”.

    Taking aim at the committee, he said: “At no stage, either during its deliberations or in its preparation of this report, did the PAC make any contact whatsoever with Randox.

    “Consequently many elements of its report relating to Randox are false, based as they are, on wrong and unchecked assumptions about the company.”
     
  19. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    You're going off topic Vlad
    Can we get back to and stick to the Thread - the victor of the contesr will be ... Our Next P.M.
    It is the the comparrison between
    The Frying Pan and Fire
    The Devil and the deep 'Blue' sea
    Rude Rishi or Thatcher loving Truss
    which is the discussion
     
  20. Vladimir Illich

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    I'm going off topic ??? - who was it who raised the issue of impropriety of Dr Caroline Lucas MP ??? - talking about Kettles and pots aren't we !!!
     

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