I think Hamas was voted in because they are far less corrupt than the Fatah party. Hamas organizes schools, hospitals, and many other societal entities that have improved Palestinian life whereas Fatah collects international monies and pockets it, and they--Fatah--also sponsors terrorism (the West likes to overlook that). However, part of Hamas' manifesto calls for the destruction of Israel (at least it did last time I looked). How can Israel be expected to hold talks with them? Hopefully Hamas can transform and become more of their charitable side and less of their blowing-children-into-little-chunks side. I'm not holding my breath that either side will actively improve the situation.
Oh I totally agree that Fatah as well as about three other of the major 'Organisations' including the PLO are terrorist groups anyways. Hamas is really just the one that is totally open about it. But here is the thinking: Israel has killed Babies and American paid for it. So.. Therefore.. From now on, and for ever on - you may kill Israelis and do whatever it takes and keep doing whatever you want. Blow up busses of Old people Blow shrapnel through a babies head. Kill Jews. Dont worry about anything because Jews and Bush are actually the ones doing it anyways. Do you see how that works? Stoney agrees. I give Israel about.. Im gonna guess less than three years before it launches a full-on elimination of the 'Palestinian Issue'. The thing to watch now - the Israeli Elections. A 'Benjamin Netanyahu' might just show up to go hard at HAMAS and maybe everyone on both sides gets their wish - war?
iconoclast ..but ofcourse, they came out as the lesser of evils. isnt that what happens in every 'democratic' country ? if israel cannot be expected to hold talks with hamas bcoz part of their so-called manifesto calls for the destruction of israel (not killin of the jews!) why is palestine and the palestinians expected to hold talks with israel who has occupied'em, humiliated'em, destroyed and murdered'em over half a century ..not forgettin the "partners of peace" from israel bein murderers in their own right who could and should be tried for the genocide committed against thousands of palestinian lives?! this is where you see them both with a balanced view .. for sure, it is a hope shared ..that the new government of palestine will show their charitable side and work with the people to bring about freedom, justice and overall sensibility and economic-independence whilst truly followin an agenda that'd bring about peace and stability and most importantly the creation of their country! this said, "blowing-children-into-little-chunks" is not a trade mark of hamas and other palestinian resistance movements (you may choose, terrorist organisations) but has been in response to the exact same crimes committed against their people by the state of israel. dog waggin tail or tail waggin the dog ? hell, same could be said about bush, blair and the other smaller partners-of-destruction erasmus, is that the best you could come up with ? tch tch
Apparently Its all I need to come up since you waste no time confirming how right I am.... So thats all I needed to say and thats all you needed to come up with to agree with my analysis. You confirmed me all the way!
I hope Im wrong! Unfortunately, Im not wrong about the mentality of someone like Stoney. Coincidently I just watched this Muslim Cleric in France explaining how exactly the Jihadi is recruited and how the 'dialogue' works. "Well first I was just a nobody.. but now.. now I am a Muslim and will show the others I have power..." Then "God is on my side and will allow or disallow through me.." Then, the thinking goes further to 'tooth for tooth': "Well.. The 'Christians' slaughtered 200,000 Muslims in Bosnia.. 'therefore'... I can now slaughter as many as 200,000 Christians here in France and this is allowed and this is fair and its even Allahs Will if it happens!" Even more is added: "Not only should I take as many eyes - but - its not only fair but its the very fault and blame of those who started it!" So now you see how this thinking works? Bush has murdered more than 3,000 Muslims. 3,000 Americans are dead on 9/11 This is not only blameless on any Muslims but in fact - America is to blame! That is the thinking and more and more Muslims (who are sane) have caught and exposed this than anyone! Why do you think I know about this? Because Muslims have told me all about it and they know this like you know McDonalds serves Cheeseburgers. Its not some 'Secret'. This IS how a young man can walk into a Deli, blow up a Nail-Bomb and splatter and innocent baby against a wall. Then be praised by those in his own Neighbourhood as a 'Martyr'. Im sorry but this IS how it works.
Erasmus, how could you be wrong about something you think about somebody? I mean, it's... silly, what you think is what you think, wrong or right is not possible there Umm something else, I always believed somebody need some good reasons to suicide himself and take others in his death. Some are brainwashed, this is true. But there are grounds in their everyday life that doesn't make them really "happy" and give the opportunity to some to convince them doing sad things. I am not for tooth for tooth thinking, but I know forgive is not easy. Do not think every muslims are the way you say. Dumb and blind people exist everywhere. (ps: Palestine has no access to trade, what the country exports goes through Israel, Israel just decided to not give money they owe to palestinians to blame them for the election. It represents 50 milions dollar. Compared to the international help Palestine recieve it is maybe not much, but is the principle clever? Is that forgiving?) Peace It is kinda easy to judge others sitting in front of a computer, take nothing personal.
I think that the Palestinians got bored of the endless negotiations and agreements that arent applied in real life, just kept in drawers! Fatah, or the palestinian governement is full of corruption. They used to take big deals of the money they receive from other countries and buy villas, cars, lands,...etc and leave their people to starve! The Palestinians had ENOUGH! Hamas is hones, they dont have corruption, they are religious and fear God, stealing others' money is totally forbidden in Islam. I guess that if the USA or Israel was really serious in the peace process, they should have achieved it! But they are postponing and delaying till we all got BORED! Besides, if you had a look on other countries, you will find that there is a trend to vote for conservatives, take an example, Germany, Canada, USA, ...etc.