++++ peak experience

It is something far beyond words. No opiate will get you here, sorry.

 

You have just started barely dipping your toes into real psychedelics. I'm going to lay it out for you from my personal experience. Opioids are not going to get you there, they are not going to get you even close to there. They are going to provide you with a trippy headspace, a feeling of universal love, and tons of good vibes, but that is not what "++++" is. You are also not going to experience "++++" off one of your first trips, off a low dose of 2c-i at that. You have just started dude. You have had, at best, a mildly strong ++, and you think that that's the end of the game. I didn't have my first ++++ until ~12 psychedelic trips, and I've only ever had 2-3 in my LIFE, out of ~75+ trips, ~40+ which were "high dose". Trust me, they are an insanely rare beast, and you have not experienced it if you think it's gettable from opiates. I know that by definition that state is not predetermined by substance or dose, but any psychonaut will tell you that it sure as hell is correlated.

Get yourself some Dipropyl Tryptamine, snort 100-200mg, and then come here and tell me exactly how similar that is to your cute little opiate buzz. Huge, huge, insurmountable difference. I am sorry that this post and others here seem to blow your statements down but it's because they obviously come from a place of inexperience. Believe me, you cannot possibly fathom, even with your tiny step into 2c-i territory, how radically deep the rabbit hole goes. ++++ is far beyond words as prone said.

You are one of those people who are both very attuned to their own mind and very sensitive to psychedelics, so to you any real ++/+++ trip is going to seem like it can't possibly get any more, but I'm here to tell you that you can't imagine how much more there is.