Pedophiles: Sick or Evil?

Sure. I mean, think about even into the early 20th century, females (fields and farming days) were marrying at 14! Males were looked at in a much different light. Both were, really.

But, this only addresses the tip of the iceberg of the "Lolita Complex", which I think is only one arena of pedophilia (although the largest by far!).

 

Like saved by the Bell.

 

I'm sure that could be used as one example.

Don't get me wrong, I am for a robust freedom of speech, but the hypocrisy of American culture is contributing to its demise.

Obviously, sexuality and sexual exploration exist in children, and people fail to regard that truth, but pedophilia needs to be given more attention by the psychological sciences in order to help answer the problem and further progress our culture.

And I do believe the popular entertainment and advertising promote it (underage girls as sex objects) and blatantly do so.

 

Libertine,majoring in the study of the mind and human nature ,might pedophiles be born as they are--even as gays are born gay ,heterosexuals born hetero and others born with certain conditions from birth?And if they are ,what does this portend for treatment?Nature?nurture?

 

I have asked that question, too. Suppose some are born with a certain function (or disfunction) that stimulates this desire. That is something that would still need examination by the psychological sciences. Good points.

 

Thanks.And it begs the question "is there a cure for something so innate"if in fact ,that is the case.It would be ,therefore like trying to teach a squirrel not to be a squirrel.However,I agree with you that there needs to be more study on this.Not likely tho, the way children are treated here and around the world.Also the (admittedly)knee jerk reaction like I had earlier of fuck em--lock em up!Or beat the shit out of em'.When I think of my little grand children with some fucker raping them and/or killing them----well--- logic kinda goes out the window--I instantly think of going for neck!

 

We all do.

But in the theorizing of the subject, you are able to see the issue all the way around.

I think we've had some good posts in this thread. This has been one of the more intellectually stimulating and entertaining threads I've had in some time!

 

Pedos that like very young childrens are very rare and far in between. most of them would not even think of harming a child . but some of the more rare type who kills and force rape are the real danger , again this folks are still rare. theres more chance of your kids being kill by a bimbo on the cellular phone while driving a SUV than 1 of this extreme wako harming your kids .

 

Working in my field, I agree with you. It is rare. Usually the cases I see are guys anywhere from early 20s to early 40s who have messed around with (usually improper touching) teenage girls. It DOES happen, but rarely do I see a case where a 35 year old man rapes a 4 year old. And when it does, the cause is usually not pedophilia, but some other situation (as in the case of many rapes).

Pedophilia is, again, a case for study. It is something that needs to be tackled by the psychological sciences because it is extremely odd that only 2-10% of molestation is due to genuine pedophilia. Now, that's an open topic right there! Most people are unaware of this.

 

liberinte what do you do for a living?

It funny becasue it called hip forum but i never considered myself a hippy and just that it was a "hip" name (in response to an older post)

I don't have much to say becasue i don't have much to disagree with.

I've read lolita but that was after i started. So i wouldn't see it as a real cause of anything, but a good book, good adventure and moral experiance. I have to say he has the feelings of the attacker down pat,i wish i could tlak to him, i couldn't imagine him being that accurate unless he has done it himself.

But i do agree if theses thoughts contined into my adulthood, and their was confidental help, i would be very inclined to try it, but right now its not illegal, and for now i'm in something else so its not a pressing promblem

 

What I'd like to be clear on before I made the judgment is, what exactly we mean by "pedophilia". Are we talking those people who are SOLELY attracted to prepubescent children? Or are we also including those who are able to view children as sexy beings AS WELL AS adults? I ask this because, frankly, I only believe the former to be the genuine case of pedophilia. The latter, to me at least, is people just being people. After all, Child MOLESTATION does NOT necessarily have to take place in either situation, which I realize many on this thread seem to be aware.

However, one thing that I have also noticed over the years is that, especially in places like America, there seems to be a great deal of what I usually call "pedoPHOBIA". It seems to me that so many adults are simply AFRAID to even give children something as totally harmless as a friendly hug, fearing that even such benign action might cause some fucknut to jump to conclusion and accuse them of being pedophiles(apparently this happens more often than meets the eye *disgusted*). I think such state in today's society is beyond absurd. When ANYTHING sex-related gets added to the picture, people get further panicky. As BIB has mentioned, then the younger party involved automatically becomes the "victim", while the older becomes the "predator". The question is, should it really be THAT clear-cut?

I believe I'm getting ahead of myself, however. I will be quiet for the time being and at least try to organize my thoughts on this issue.

 

Very rarley does a pedophile/sex offender ever become "normal"

I read a book on people like this by a professional pysciotrist. Its called Perditors. I forgot her name. But very insightful but pretty sick and very sad

 

My "job" is in media. My other activities include community volunteerism, board of directors on the Keep America Beautiful campaign in my local area, the International Rotary (former member--too religious for me), board member of the local Sheriff's Boy's Home for orphans, and a member of the ACLU.

 

That's American, man. FEAR is our driving force.

FEAR of "Terrorists". FEAR of Drugs. FEAR of Sex. FEAR of "Hell".

Sure we should be concerned and cautious, but America is too puritanical and tries to solve issues the wrong way a lot of the times.

But, as far as this subject, I feel my own point is clear enough.

 

You can read any book to tell you anything. I've gotten information which states the cognitive, behavioral and chemical therapy due, indeed, help.

So there you go.

 

Molesting children (pedophilia) and having sex with post-pubesent people, regardless of age, is two different things. I, myself, have never had sex with anyone under 19, and with the exception of grab assing and stinky pinky in Jr High, never touched anyone under 18.

That said, i believe that people become sexual animals after puberty, naturally, the fact cannot be disputed. My grandmother was married at 13, before WWII, as a grown woman. After WWII, the "teenager" was invented by american culture, that is where we started treating 13 to 19 year olds as children who cant know better. I know a few 15 year old girls more mature, mentally and sexually, than a lot of 25 year olds. What does that say?

Sexual attraction to pre-pubesent children is sick, and needs help, people who find post-pubesent, freshly sexual young women,attractive are only victim to natural order, or else puberty wouldnt happen until 21.

 

Very good points, heron. I agree 99%.

The only thing that I would say is that pedophilia is not necessarily child molesting. Some pedophiles have never molested children...except maybe in their minds.

 

I stand corrected friend, you are right.

Note: You won't hear that often lol

 

*lol*

 

I'm not a fan of pigeon holing human behavior .

I haven't voted on your poll because I think its pretty narrow minded & does not account for the difference in child abduction & sexual relations without legal age restraints.

There's a world of difference between the two & not only is this a deep subject to discuss it is one currently clouded in massive media hysteria .

I cant see how abducting children or behaving anti socially toward them in any way can benefit civilized society but neither can I see how it benefits society to permit Government & a legal system more concerned with making ridiculously large profits than implementing any form of justice , to dictate who when & how we use our body's in a natural manner with , be it passionate , affectionate , combative or whatever .