People, friends, I'm in very serious trouble.

Discussion in 'Opiates' started by cosmoknot, Feb 16, 2011.

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  1. ness33

    ness33 Member

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    Obviously those who are giving this guy a hard time are too self-rightous to see their faults are just as bad as his addiction. What makes your faults better than his and what if he has a legitimate reason. I can tell all those with no sympathy have never experience opiate withdraw.
    I have been their and got clean. I still feel for the man, its horrible pain.

    I would seek out a bupe doc even if you are still in some pain from the car accident. It will cure your withdraw symptoms and get you used to sober living. In addition to provide some pain relief from any symptoms lingering from you accident. I am very sorry about your situation and i too thought i was going to slowly turn into a corpse during withdraw. I got arrested and was immediately on a plane the next morning to visit my father on a business trip in colorado and get my act together. I had to experience my first major withdraw in an altitude i wasn't used to and having to partake in daily hiking, biking, and running activities. Lets just say it was when shit got REAL.
     
  2. NewbieJC

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    Good luck man hope things turn out for the best soon. I'm not as educated on meds for your situation as some of the other ppl that have responded but maybe try to find a methadone clinic, helps with the WD and is also used as a PK, but, that too is highly addictive.
     
  3. MissEllieFace

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    You COULD buy dried poppy pods online for your "Arts and craft" needs.....if you get what I am saying. They are great when you are feeling bad (like you are) and could help spare you some grief, at least until you can find a PM MD who is willing to help you. I'm sorry you are going through hell right now :( and I hope you feel better.
     
  4. Blu3Light

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    Why are people ragging on him for his "addiction", when he was prescribed the shit. And telling him not to abuse his meds? It's the simple fact that he was prescribed oxy, dilaudid, and soma for 7 years, and then cut off. That is going to fuck with anybody a great deal regardless of how they were taking their meds. ROA doesn't make a difference.
     
  5. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    I am very surprised that your primary practitioner did not offer assistance with the obvious withdrawal you were going to have. There were some things they could have done to assist you through it. You would of still had to physically go through it but it might have made it a little easier.

    Have you approached your primary about another opinion on all aspects of your condition. He may be able to refer you to another doctor for re-evaluation of your needs.

    I do think you are addicted and need to make some changes for yourself and deal with your condition in a more positive manner. With your history of dependency you are going to have a difficult time to have any doctor prescribe for you.

    Perhaps you need to look at alternatives to the drugs to help you deal with this. There things like acupuncture, acupressure and many others that do help people. Might be worth trying.

    I hope that you find something that helps you. :)
     
  6. Skizm

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    Best of luck man. My addiction back in high school never got to that point, but it was around long enough for me to curse my WDs to a fiery pool of poo that had Justin Bieber playing in the background.

    Hope everything turns out alright.
     
  7. stash napt

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    I fucking hate the big pharma industry for reasons like this.. This is why i quit pills and meds like these long ago. They don't fix your problems they just cover them up, steal your life, your sanity, your money, your brain and your liver..
     
  8. cosmoknot

    cosmoknot Humboldt County Homey

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    Fuck you to all of you motherfucking backstabbing, judgmental, ignorant assholes.

    I never went to the ER, shit fell through (not on my part, long story) so there you go shithead, I stayed away from your fucking precious ER.

    Second, I have been diagnosed alternately over a period of seven years with kyphosis, scoliosis, a wedge compression fracture, nerve damage (something like radial nerve damage I think), something called Verset Syndrome (SP?), & a few other very serious things: The pain is real, it is not in my head. Oh yeah, & I've occasional had bouts with temporary paralysis of my arms.

    I have tried to cut the meds out before & I can say this with certainty, I can tell the difference between my severe back pain & the pain that accompanies withdrawal. I have been to rehab. After going sober, kicking the habit, I eventually returned to the meds reluctantly because the back pain is so fucking bad I can not even sleep a single night through without constant agony, I can't sit, I can't lift over 20 lbs., I can't even do simple tasks like dishes or laundry sans the meds--& that's sober you fucks. Only with the meds has my life been tolerable.

    I am young, and I've discussed with a few doctors how that impacts the legitimacy seen in the eyes of pain management specialists in a negative light; as if I need to be a decrepit old man to legitimize my struggles. So I already knew that hurdle was there.

    Before I left California, I had no problems with continuation of my medical treatment, & if I were still in Oakland, I'd be fine. I know I belong in a big city for this major dilemma. So as for methadone clinics or suboxone treatment therapy, I've already asked my local doc about that & been told I DO NOT BELONG IN REHAB, that I need to seek out a pain specialist IMMEDIATELY & I questioned if I should seek out an orthopedic specialist, as well as a neurologist, & was told many pain docs are also neurologists, to skip the ortho doc, & find a pain doc ASAP. This is serious people, and I should've clarified my previous diagnoses by about 12 or so different doctors over time that I have real issues; I only postulated from my own lack of knowledge of how MRI's work that this must be nerve pain since I simply didn't know what the hell my problem is. But I assure you naysayers that this is not a simple case of "take a carbamazapine and call me in the morning", the pain won't go away with that alone, I already take Neurontin so if it was purely neuropathic, that drug would kill the pain dead away.

    I did fear that online pharmacies would be too costly, but there are also no croakers in this shitty hick town, nor are there any smack pushers. I'm close to the Mexico border, so theoretically I could go there & take my chances if I had a car or a ride. But I don't, so that's out of the question too.

    For now, the best bet I've got is to graciously take what pain meds from friends I can get when I can get them & deal with the withdrawal bouncing back & forth constantly until I can get my fucking ass back to Cali where I know for sure I could pick up where I left off.

    I've got to stop typing now because my lower back is aching so bad I can barely type without pausing every two seconds to try & adjust the pain (a useless effort) to some manageable level.

    I appreciate the poppy pod & kratom suggestions, I think I'll look into that.

    For now, thanks to all that took me at face value, sure I may abuse drugs of other sorts or use them depending upon your perspective, but I take my PTSD treatment & pain management treatment very seriously & have rarely stepped out of bounds with those meds in seven fucking years. In fact, I've never even run out of meds early. Not once. So again, fuck you assholes who jumped to conclusions that because I like to get high I must therefore also be abusing the very drugs that make my life tolerable. Really, go fuck yourselves & wouldn't normally state something like this, but I hope to god that you fuckers one day learn what it's like to suffer the way I do on a daily basis sans the meds. I normally wish no harm on anyone but you people crossed the line & pissed me off.

    Anyway, I have to stop now, the pain has now risen to my thoracic & I can't sit here typing anymore. Please, people, continue to pour in sensible suggestions, I need them. I really do. Lastly, I really am grateful to those of you who know where I am at, have been here or at least partly here, & to those of who who've tried to understand, do understand, have sympathy, & aren't resorting to knee-jerk reactions that I am just some pill-popping junkie pumping docs for drugs. I'm not, & I appreciate your objectivity. Thank you to those of you I addressed in that capacity from the bottom of my heart.
     
  9. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    How long until you go back to Cali?
     
  10. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    You aren't just some pill-popping junkie, you have a legitimate reason for taking the meds all these years, but you ARE addicted and you DO need to find help. I have no idea what you're going through, I don't know what is out there that can help you with pain management without the addition of addictive medication, but I hope for your sake and others' that there is some answer out there. I know you're hurting, but feeling sorry for yourself and seeking the drugs again is just going to put you in this situation again later. It sucks that you have to go through this shit and I wish you all the best. Just know that while living in pain is no way to spend your life, addiction's not much better.
     
  11. Terrapin2190

    Terrapin2190 I am nature.

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    I partially agree with Jokerman. Pain can actually be "caused" from taking pain killers for too long of a time. But, on the other hand, if your personal physician took you off of 3 heavy duty pain killers that have a history of addiction, you could have a law suit there. Doctors are not supposed to go beyond the prescription's guidelines if withdrawal symptoms are severe.

    My mom was on a prescription medication a few years ago called Lyrica (that was still somewhat experimental at the time... at least, it was a new drug fresh on the market). It's for muscular dystrophy and fibromyalgia patients used to ease the pain of everyday muscle movement. What this medication did to her tho was it started swelling her face and throat, so much so that it was visibly noticeable and would cut off her airway every so often. She went to see the doctor and told him of these side-effects and believe it or not, instead of taking her off the drug or weening her off of it (which is what you're supposed to do with heavy duty pain killers and also other various drugs), he said he wanted her taking more of this drug. We never did go through with filing a malpractice suit, but we sure did have the evidence for it.

    I say, if you're able the next few days or whenever... look into filing a lawsuit against your physician for taking you off heavy duty PK's when there is a risk of death by withdrawal. Hazard to patient's safety, ignorance to the drug trade... something along those lines. I'm pretty sure it's illegal, or there's at least got to be a handbook out there that explains it all. That's bullshit in my opinion, how your doctor is treating you. But, at the same time, seek some help to maintain your prescriptions. They could be doing more harm than they are doing any good.
     
  12. scratcho

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    Are you at the point where an operation/s might be needed?
     
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