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Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by Question, Oct 28, 2007.

  1. sw0o0sh

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    what does DP + DR stands for? it'd help me understand that a little better lol
     
  2. elfin1mf

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    It is impossible to sum up a years worth of trip tripping in one post. I left out a very important feeling. The feeling that I actually died during my trip and that is why I don't remember it really. I still reckon myself as one of the dead. people should read quotes of mohammad, I am not religious but his quotes are insightful to trippers. I also have the feeling that I was abducted during my trip for rececitation and reprogramming. Another reality I had was that every person is a different part of someones brain interacting to hold together a community. It is a stark possibility we are a being within a being within a being. This is a widely accepted theory called the virus theory. all life forms are viruses is very probable. I also sometimes believe that the sun is a nucleus and we live on protons which revolve around the nucleus. I also believe that there are beings which can travel close to the speed of light. We are likely not the only life forms, in fact that is an assinine assumption. We probably live among many other life forms who are far different than us and normal humans just don't realize that they are there. Shadow and light creatures are always possible. Also how do we know that we are human? what if we are a virus or energy being which took over this physical body? Possibilities are endless when anything can be real. Sometimes it is as if i control the physical world around me subconciously. This is at first scary but then it becomes wonderful. Who cares if nothing is real, that is the same as saying everything is real. There is no difference. Even if everything is a creation of the mind it is still real because there is nothing more real to you. It is quite possible that we could wake up as a different person everyday. There would be no way of knowing this because you would have no knowledge of the previous life. Best to live in the moment I do say. It is more likely though that we all are the same person and our minds just perceive life in this false reality of 80billion people with individuality. For all we know we are all the same energy field and we trick ourselves into thinking we have separate conciousness.
     
  3. MovedOn

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    elfin1mf, I know what you mean exactly and I actually agree completely.

    On acid I essentially saw that at any point in my life I'm surrounded by a tesseract sort of. Like it's my spaceship through life. That it had always been there, I just didn't notice it. That all reality filtered through this tesseract and that all I considered "reality" was merely energy absorbed through my chakra points that was then being manifested to maya (illusion) via my will on the walls of this tesseract. I believe this is the function of every human. That in essence every human is a tesseract. Because when I was seeing my tesseract all reality sort of melted away and I could see an expanseive grid of souls going off infinitely, it looked like indra's net (google it and look at the pictures). I immediately equated this to the matrix, that these were essentially the stacked pods people live in all there life not knowing. That as I said, reality is just maya, energy absorbed through your chakras and then manifested out to the 3d reality, typically by the will to love. I find by focusing on anahat, you can actually merely begin to sense "love" as a tangible, malable, energy. That when shit gets bad, just sit down and focus on anahat and draw energy into and reality will manifest with love for you.

    I find that typically until you recognize the true nature of your perception, that perception will come back to you in various hallucinations until you can figure it out. Which is why you kept experiencing the matrix-esque reality? The perception was very true, but you just weren't seeing it clearly. I believe Indra's net to be one of the clearest perception of it. Also, I did find that the only way to sense other people truly is with love. When everything breaks down to the level of indra's net, the only perception of "other people" comes through anahat.

    Also what you describe is metanoia (everything is helping me). The opposite of paranoia. It is common for many people actually.

    But you know, actually every perception you describe and talk of has been described 100% by various yogis or mystics of the past. If you give me your email, I have two books of philosophy I'll send you that I found very interesting and made alot of sense of things for me. I don't know if you will. But I liked them.
     
  4. killuminati

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    i know what you say when you mean being within a being.


    sometimes i think the universe operates as one giant brain. i know that it's said all answers are within, which was figurative, but could it be physical to an extent, in that sense?
     
  5. elfin1mf

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    I would surely read any books that you recommend rygoody. I am a problem reader since my permafry though. Usually I am fine and really enjoy the read, but every once in a while it seems that print is dead and I become the text in a way. I slip away from correlating the book to my life and it actually just seems as though the words are narrating my life. you can send email to my gmail account which is my alias here on hipforums with the adition of @gmail.com , got it?
     
  6. MovedOn

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    just because it's non-physical doesnt mean its any less real

    in fact I'd say the nonphysical realm is even more real because it's what the physical is built on top of
     
  7. Shapeshifter

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    elfin1mf and rygoody it is so beautifull "listening" to you two, so young yet so mature. What is mature? I define it by few of your posts, thats mature! I wish there is more people like that....
     
  8. killuminati

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    i'd rather not get into all the astral stuff, but you infered too much..i never even disagreed with what you just said.
     
  9. WhatIsThe

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    So after reading this thread I decided to register and make this my first post.
    I did 3.5 hits of some strong 'cid last friday, they guy I got it from said about ~300 micro-grams when I was talking to him the next day. This was my 5th trip, if done shrooms twice and this was my third time on cid. I tripped so hard, I thought I had gone insane at one point and was never coming back, my visuals were extremely intense, burnt in images, etc. The trip lasted about 17 hours, then I passed out for about 30 mins. That whole day I couldnt read or look at nay type of electonic monitar. Since then Ive had a lot trailing, and my eyes are extremely sensitive to light, Ive also been having auditory hallucinations , and if I try looking at anything to long morphing occurs, especially computer screens and tv's. At night I wake up 6-8 times and will find myself just standing up, my dreams are extremely similar to reallife events, ie hanging out with friends, and almost always include the people that I tripped with. It feels like all my sense are hightened. Im also getting kinda bad headachs. The first peak of the trip was the most intense, it was the only time during a trip I have ever become unresponsive, I just lied there unable to move or talk, or even blink for about 2 hours, I can remeber very little detail during this time. At one point in the trip my friend and I thought we were having a conversation, but in actually we were just lyeing there, we remeber what the conversation about because it was about how hard we were tripping, and the only time we were both "vocal" about what we were seeing/experiencing, but in actually we hadn't had said a word.
    Just felt like adding my story
    One of my friends that was with us did 1.5 hits and ended up having a sezuire, I can remeber thinking she was dead, and then questioning my own exsitance, and thought of the virus theory thing.
     
  10. HighAsHell

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    I believe the same thing, once you take it, it's too late....
    xD
     
  11. HighAsHell

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    ... This, is the point you put the acid down, ladies and gentlemen. XD
     
  12. Shapeshifter

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    Why? Thats the most exiting part of your life, and it just started :)
     
  13. LSD ASAP

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    It sounds to me like you don't like what happened to you. You can learn so much from that trip. For me the best is when it's the craziest.
    I remember my first 250ug dose and I wanted to see patterns so badly not just alittle bit but crystal clear. And I got them and they were so crystal clear everywhere that much that I couldn't see reality just a little bit blured at the background. And it was lasting for a long time so eventualy I started being pissed off and I remember saying: "And how the f.... I'm gonna grab the glass now and have some water? How I'm gonna move these patterns". You must realize that I was getting pissed off cause I have a kid sleeping in next room that can wake up and want some water or to go to toilet so I don't have that option of being unable to move or talk. Then a tought crossed my mind. Maybe it's teaching me something. And maybe I created this for myself wanting it so badly. Maybe I should realize that my vision is not my only sense and maybe it's showing me how to connect material world with this without my eyes. Eventualy I found my way of dealing with it. It's a process of learning to let go.
    Well next time I did more and I was fine. Patterns were there and I could bring them up to see them more but they were not that important anymore.
    I hope this example can give you some clue.
    Trip is lasting 12 hours and afterglow can last for some time after. Don't worry what you feel will pass. You are still in process of realizing what happened to you.
     
  14. MovedOn

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    Actually I really don't think it's absurd at all what I said. Physical is built on top of non-physical. That portion isn't opinion, even scientists would say it's an evidenced fact with the advent of quantum theory.

    Now to say, the non-physical is more real than the physical? Well that is an opinion of mine. But keeping in mind that the realm of pure feeling in your body and your thoughts are in the realm of non-physical, could you honestly say the non-physical is less "real"?

    Which even still, you could, as I may be operating under a different definition of "real". To me "real" is not what I can go out on the streets and ask a stranger "is that real" and he would agree, as in asking if that tree or building is real. To me "real" is what, at the end of my life is going to provide me pure peace and contendeness. Which in that respect, I don't care how many people demoncratically agree that a "something" is a "something". What I care about is, will thinking that 'something' to be a certain 'something' get me to my goal? If it is, then I would consider it real.

    I use a the term "real" more in the context of "is that person being real". Well of course all persons are real... But can I aid myself by considering certain aspects to not be?
     
  15. MovedOn

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    I, to a degree, feel that deep down I have fear of the day I'll lose all sight as a primary sense.
     
  16. Shapeshifter

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    Don't fear, it is natural proces! Everybody one day must "die", and that day you will lose all sight as a primary sense, you won't need it in that other dimension or reality ;)
     
  17. LSD ASAP

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    Hahaha :), you little devil. That was an example.
     
  18. elfin1mf

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    WhatIsThe -My advice to you is to practice turning on/off the tripping. Your mind is probably capable at this point to trip without drugs. Just focus, look at yourself in the mirror if you have to and try to get those pupils to dilate.
    I recommend never watching any screens during an intense trip. You may find that the whole act of watching a tv program or most movies is just silly and that you cant believe you ever watched television in the first place. Anything sequential can freak a person out when they see that time is an illusion. I also want to add that the best music during a trip is something you have never heard. Although anything can be overwelming. Just the sound of the wind blowing can captivate a person. I also suggest that you and anyone else reading this find a spot in nature that you find particularly pleasant where you are alone and just spend time appreciating the setting. Once you are able to find joy in nature you are able to ween yourself off of societal boundaries. You can be satisfied just being and not have to act as a slave to societal pressure and foolish desires. Remember that even if your entire life is an illusion (which it could be) there is no reason not to enjoy every second of it and be content with your existance.
     
  19. MovedOn

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    I actually like 5 months ago, in a rather frantic state decided "im going to go find a personal sanctuary"

    which basically turned out to be a little secluded spot in the forest, I visit it still when necessary.

    But yes, I agree with elfin, find a specific spot in nature to go sit is very good.
     
  20. elfin1mf

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    "This morning when I woke up,
    I had a long, long,long arms,
    covered with beautiful fethers!
    I think I'll never be the same again!"

    - I just noticed this. Whenever an HPPD person like me and you wake up or are falling asleep is when we trip out the most. This is because our bodies are releasing small amounts of DMT which causes us to dream. I do not usually get visuals from this, but I get profound feelings as though my mind is fully in control of every object, every cloud in the sky, every person and their words, every little thing. Same if I dont sleep for a long time, it feels as though every sight and sound I perceive is the direct result of my brain thinking.

    And a runners high I do get, I would compare it to the best weed high you can imagine, but add in a slight headache. When I stand up I also get the extreme rush, sometimes resulting in a white out in vision. I wouldnt say a black out because for me everything turns white, just like the first time I smoked heady weed.
     

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