Pet Peeves

So did you or did you not smoke 8grams a day. Either way if you're selling dank smoking anything more than a gram, maybe two a day is pretty excessive.

Could it be, could it possibly be, the far fetched idea that it's the natural human condition to want more than the bare necessities. You know things like the computers we're all on.(Computers are energy intensive to make and have materials in them that are quite ill for the environment, not to mention expensive)

 

sir, within the last 6 months i have stopped all habitual acts of consumption. totally changed my diet, i no longer consume geese, fast food. stuck to a strict diet of meat, veggie, dairy, and grain.

i stopped smoking everything. no cigs nor weed.

and i have been hitch hiking living out of a backpack.

when you live out of a backpack, moving to a different state or town, every few weeks, you dont always have food, and you dont always have weed, and i have learned - life is better that way.

none of these are easy tasks.
im a 21 year old man who reached points of insight and enlightenment in which 40 year olds havent, and some people who wont ever reach because they are to busy consuming things always chasing more.

Im younger then you.

yet look how where i stand and where you stand.

we are all free to do what we want.

i just choose to live closer to the heart.

instead of being distracted by consumption.

 

Wait, what's wrong with eating geese if you're eating other meat?

Also I've never owned a car, bike everywhere, have never owned a cell phone, am using a jerry rigged near 10 year old computer and rarely eat meat, and when I do it's only when it's offered by someone else.

I have no desire to live out of a backpack, being homeless isn't appealing, that rang true today as it did 10,000 years ago, especially when it's 26 degrees and snowing outside.(as it is right now)

Sometimes the brain is better than the heart.

 

this is getting past the point of the original thread,

im not saying your wrong for living the life you live, im not saying your a bad person. its not like oh you smoke cigs and smoke weed your wrong for that - because your not. eat, smoke, do other drugs, do what you want.

im just saying i dont like over consumption.

tis all.

some people have more, others people have none. I have just enough.

i appreciate your perception and energy on this madcap, and you make alot of good points. and i hold value to what you say, im no more right then you. its just a life style choice.

i choose not to take more then i need.

and im not a fan of others doing it either.

 

But you didn't answer the first question, why not eat geese if you're eating meat in general?

 

geese are very greasy.. depend on how you take them., If you cook it like a turkey , it will be greasy, Tasty but greasy.. Chop off the breast and cook it alone , be less greasy then the whole body bird but still greasy..

 

i used the wrong term: deep fryed food? that type of greese. ya kno? it just dosent settle well in my stomach. like chicken wings, and french frys ect. deeper fryer foods lol. anyhow, i must move on to a new thread now.

 

Ahhhh grease.

 

gary gusey... haha.. I used to think that was his name..

 

goose stew is amazing, i actually have some in the fridge, the breast is the only part we keep, what dark meat there is goes to the dogs and the rest goes in the woods for the foxes to pick at. I do hunt, but i also eat what i kill, which is always only geese and a few ducks.

 

FLOES, just wondering whose computer are you using? hitchhike to rochester and we could meet would you turn down an offer of some cannabis vapor? are you now opposed to smoking, or just don't purchase it or smoke it often?

 

i dont smoke anymore, i feel like its to distracting. i was doing some medical marijuana work in colorado for a bit trimming and i was just smoking some mad dank weed and hash oil and just like smoking nothing but hash and dank weed for so long. then one day i just decided to stop. i feel like i can get further within my mind, less distracted. i have nothing against weed. i just feel like i can go further within my mind with out it.

when i smoke. i get high, then come down. and then smoke more, get high, come down, go up, go down, up down up down up down up down all day long and i never have a stable clear state of mind except for when i wake up. so i just decided that i dont want to smoke anymore.

i like my clear state of mind. i feel so much better of a person, i was high for like. 6 years steright lol. now i just feel like. its break time for a bit.

tho taking a hit once in a while is no big deal

i just wont smoke habitually anymore. but id love to take a toke off your vape



i was just up in rochester for lotus, im down pittsburgh for a few weeks then ill be heading back up to buffalo for a few weeks then i may be heading down to FL for rainbow in fl then back up to NYC for furthur tour. thats what im looking at right now for where ill be heading.


haha. i have this super headie little 10' laptop i carry in my backpack. i use it to find rides places to stay shows connections ect. the interent is a powerful tool.

 

i would suggest trying it one time in your life. im far from homeless, my home is on my back, my home is in my tent, my home is where i rest my head.

it must get boreing to go to sleep and wake up in the same spot everyday, live the same day over and over, knowing exectly what your going to do everyday. being able to plan what your doing next week, working the same job.

if you where homeless, you wouldent be where the weather was 26 dagrees thats for sure. you would be sitting in the sun, probably on a beach, next to the ocean, where you can walk intill you cant anymore, then laydown and take a nap. and get back up and keep going.


Freedom leads to freedom. Those are the first words of truth. You do not know what truth is because you do not know what freedom is.

i would suggest everybody trys it once. i dont plan on living this way all my life, but, why not experience all the world has to offer? instead of going to work, getting on your computer, going to your bedroom, and riding your bike around town?

just a suggestion if you want to live an interesting life.

i want you to know -

"if you dont know where your going, any road will get you there"

 

so you just use free wireless then?

you still trip right?

 

floes - you ever read into the wild? you might like it.

 

props to you floes, i know that living like that for me would be very unenjoyable. i like my stuff, and maybe its this materialistic society, but i love having a bed, i dont plan to be where i am forever, however i do want a place for my stuff, a place to keep my cat, and habits that make me happy. i could never do what you do to mad respect to you for it

 

Truth, oh how unstable and subjective you are. One of my pet peeves is the human being's desire to make other humans think like them, or "see the truth". This typically involves some talk, or preaching, about truth. People often want their personal truths to be universally accepted, instead of relishing in the complexity of human thought and behaviors. All those "truths" out there should excite and enthrall the spirit. This brings to mind a Nietzsche quote I enjoy: "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently." The only true truth is the truth that there are many truths out there. Truthfully.

Your lifestyle and routine has it's appeal and definitely would be fun at times. It'd also be shitty at times. Ahhh, 'tis life, eh? You are a good guy with some nice ideas, and I respect you for living by your ideals, but I was surprised at some of your assumptions about other people's lifestyles. There are many ways to experience what life has to offer and we all have to find our own path.

 

ill throw in the rest of the quote for you




“Freedom leads to freedom. Those are the first words of truth. You do not know what truth is because you do not know what freedom is. All the ‘truth’ that you know today is only truth in quotation marks. There is another truth but it is not theoretical; it cannot be expressed in words. Only those who have realized it in themselves can understand that truth.

Now I will give you a detailed explanation of those words I have spoken. It rests on the following basis. The freedom I speak about is the freedom that is the goal of all schools, all religions, of all times. And in truth, I tell you that this freedom can be a very great one. Everyone wishes for it: but it can never be attained without the first kind of freedom that I will call the Lesser Freedom. The Greater Freedom is the liberation of ourselves from all influences acting outside ourselves. The Lesser Freedom is the liberation of ourselves from all influences acting within ourselves. For a start – for you who are beginners – the Lesser Freedom is a very big one indeed, as it is not subject to your dependence upon outside influences.

You have to understand that so long as you are the slave of inside influences you cannot come under the action of outside influences. This is perhaps even a good thing, so long as you have no inner freedom. You must understand that the man who is freed from inside influences begins to fall under the play of outside influences.

Inner influences, that produce in you inner slavery, come from many independent sources. That is to say, there is a great heap of independent factors that cause man to be inwardly a slave. These influences are different for different people. In one case one influence is strongest, and in another case another. But in every one without exception there are so many factors of slavery that, if you had to struggle with each one you would need such a long time that half a lifetime would not be enough.

Therefore we must find such a means or method of working as will enable us to destroy simultaneously as many as possible of the enemies within us from which flow these influences that produce slavery.

As I have said, there are many such independent enemies: but two of the chiefest are Vanity and Self-Love. In one doctrine, these are even called the chief ambassadors of the devil. It may be added, by the way, that for some reason they are called Madame Vanity and Monsieur Self-Love. I have quoted merely two of these inner enemies as characteristic, because it would lead too far to mention them all now.

We have so many slaves within us – each of these slaves wishes to be free, but it is difficult for each slave to work directly and straightforwardly. It is especially difficult for our slaves to contend with these enemies, because none of our slaves has enough time. At one moment one slave is present : at another moment it is another slave, and to contend with these enemies requires a great deal of time. In the upshot, it has to be done indirectly in order that we can get rid of several of the enemies simultaneously.

For this, we have to understand how these enemies work and from where they get their power. You must know that these representatives of the devil stand all the time on the threshold and deny entry to all outside influences – both good and bad. Accordingly, they have both good and bad sides. If anyone wishes to limit the entry of outside influences, it is well for him that these sentinels exist. But if, for some reason or other, anyone wishes that every kind of outside influence should enter him, then he must free himself from these two sentinels. Only it is necessary to understand once and for all that it is impossible to select the influence one wishes. For example, it is impossible to select only good influences. The sentinels are only undesirable for those whose real aim is freedom. Those who have this aim must strive by every means in their power to liberate themselves first of all from these two enemies – vanity and self-love.

To do this there are a heap of methods and many different means. But I, Gurdjieff, would personally advise you to get rid of them, without subtilizing, by merely reasoning simply and actively with yourself.

This is possible by active mentation: and I must warn you that if you fail, or find it impossible by this means, then some other means must be found, because there is no hope of going further until some of those enemies have been eradicated.

For instance, self-love or false pride takes up half of our time and half of our life. If anyone or anything outside us should hurt our pride, we are injured, not only for the time being, but for a long time afterwards. And that wounded feeling, acting by inertia, closes the portal and so shuts out life.

I live! Life is outside. I am alive so long as I am connected with the outside. If life only exists inside me, this is no life at all. When I ‘behold myself’ I find that I am linked up with the outside world. Everything lives after this wise and cannot exist without this linkage.

One experience fades away and hardly has time to do so when another takes its place. Our machine is so built that it has not various places in it in which different experiences can subsist at one and the same time. In us, there is one place where experiences can be, and if that place is occupied by experiences of one kind that are undesirable, there can be no question of its being occupied with experiences of another kind which may be desirable. You have to grasp and realize as a fact that your experiences cannot lead to any kind of achievement or liberation unless you have lived through them. You must have experiences – even more perhaps than you can possibly imagine, both pleasant and unpleasant – but you must not let them make slaves of you. On the contrary, you must use them in order to prepare a place in which you can be free.

We do not own ourselves and do not posses real pride of self. Pride of Self is a big thing. As much as we must blame pride as it is ordinarily understood, so much do we need that Real Pride which unhappily does not exist in us.

Pride of Self is the sign of being in possession of oneself. If a man has Self-Pride it proves that he is. But as I said in the beginning, Self-Pride is also the Devil’s representative. Self-Pride is the chief enemy, the chief obstacle to all our achievements. Pride is the main tool and representative of hell. Pride is also one attribute of the soul. By Pride it is possible to discern the spirit. Pride of Self is the indicator and proof that such a one is part of Heaven. Pride of Self is ‘I’. ‘I’ is God. Consequently it is needful to have pride. Pride is hell. Pride is heaven. These two, both bearing the same name, externally both of the same substance, are wholly different and opposite. No one by merely superficial examination – even if he continues a whole lifetime – will ever succeed to discern one from the other.

There is a saying ‘Those who have Pride are already half-free’. And if we take those who are sitting round here, each one has so much pride that he has more than enough to spare. This is a paradox. We are full to the brim with pride and yet we have not the slightest freedom for ourselves. The aim must be to have Pride. If we attain to have pride we shall thereby be made free from many of the foes who are installed in us. We may even free ourselves from the main ones – Madame Vanity and Monsieur Self Love.

If you wish for Freedom – even the Lesser Freedom – you must be ready to pay a big price.

Sometimes people complain to me that they cannot do the tasks I give them. What do they expect? It is enough if you see the possibility of doing them – the rest depends upon the strength of your own wish to be free. At present you cannot do, because you are not free.

You must understand that you cannot begin with freedom – freedom is the goal, the aim. People say God created man free. That is a great misunderstanding. Freedom cannot be given to anyone – even by our all-loving Creator Himself. God has given to man the biggest thing He can – that is the possibility to become free. The desire for freedom exists in every man worthy of the name – but people are stupid and think they can have outward freedom without inner freedom. All our evil comes from this stupidity. Unless we desire, first of all, to be free from our own inner enemies, we shall only go from bad to worse.

Therefore everyone must examine himself and try to find in himself a sincere wish to be free from the forces of vanity and self-love acting in him. That inner slavery is the worst degradation for man, it is the hell in which man allows himself to exist. The sincere wish to be free from that degradation is the beginning of real pride."
- Gurdjieff
Source: 'Gudjieff-Making a New World' J.G.Bennett

 

I have a way of keep this tread on two topics at once. When roaming around going from place to place, what is your biggest pet peeve you encounter?

 

when people approach my dog, i have a german shepard. that serves a job to protect me, and alot of people end up just walking up to him like its okay just to pet a dog on a leash, and my dog flips out starts barking and has put out a few warning nips before.

alot of times ill leave my backpack outfront of a store with my dog tied to it just go in get what i need, or if i want to use wifi or something. ill just leave him be. and i can leave my backpack out there for hours. but once in a while some dumbass comes alone trying to pet my dog tied to my bag and they get bit, and then like they cause a big problem about it and its as simple as this,

dont ever approach a dog on a leash.

like when they get bit i cant tell my dog hes bad, because hes doing his job. hes a german Shepard tied to a backpack. he has a job to protect that backpack and when someone thinks hes a cute dog they want to pet, and they get nailed on the arm, its there fault. but they try making me seem like im the bad person. theres been times the cops have been involved. but cops have german sheps back at the station so the cops always are on my side. people who are dumb enough to approach a dog, tied to a backpack.




no matter how cute or sweet he looks. he wont anyone mess with his papa's backpack. he knows his job. and he is very good at it. he keeps me safe, and is trained to do so. hes a road dog.