"No-one's saying you can thedope" said Dejavu. "But not having individuality without that of others doesn't mean the individual is not free on the basis of individuality. You make it sound like you've got a problem with the individual."
"I wonder how I might change my pitch to reassure you Dejavu," said thedope as he wondered into wandering, "I recognize the individual is inseparable from self except by appearances. The belief in separation is inspired by the indelible impression of the body who's parts between us prove interchangeable even to the depth of the whole heart by virtue of the heart transplant if nothing else. Fact is we share wholly in everything including entertaining private thoughts in the mind we share."
"The exception being a deceptive appearance, I have no problem with us together being individuals," retorted thedope in a twist back.
As Dejavu went thedope followed by saying, "Couldn't say, a deceptive appearance telling me nothing as I don't take exception."
"What are you talking about then?" Dejavu could speak straight, he meant what he said. "The individual is not separable from the self by appearances."
"Yet everyone nevertheless looks the way they look." replied Dejavu. "Humans are alike to the last. If we're not persecuting eachother for our looks, everyone can take pleasure in beauty."
"But not everybody looks the same," responded thedope while agreeing beauty can be had been anyone if you do not deny it, "Appearances can be deceiving."
"It is an argument for perception not being knowing," was thedope's obvious or oblivious depending of perspective, answer
"Why would you argue that?" asked Dejavu. "Are you afraid of something becoming known? Afraid you may be taken for what you're not? It makes no difference. The reality that knowledge is not total, but infinite, that it is always perceived, ends your argument."
"As a philosophical note being a lover of knowledge so we might have it on your terms, that it might be perceived by you," replied thedope. "Growing is not incompletion." and re-posting "It is an argument for their occasional lack of verity," additionally surmised thedope
"It is impossible to perceive knowledge as anything but perceived, perception itself being knowledge. As for the notion that appearances, being able to deceive, are somehow themselves then an argument for their lacking truth, occasionally or otherwise, well the truth of that is that they're never such an argument." he said.
"Who is they? Truth is never absent but appearances can be deceiving," came thedope not arguing but augmenting his previous statements.
"Appearances, dope." said Dejavu, not seeing how thedope had 'augmented' his previous statement regarding a lack of verity in light of his own statement.
"Appearance can be deceiving or consequently we can be deceived by our appearances," thedope medicated Dejavu's eye with spittle, "when you are done washing your window you will be able to see better! Augmentation was the journey between, 1)"That appearances can be deceiving is no argument against them." 2)"It is an argument for their occasional lack of verity," 3)"As for the notion that appearances, being able to deceive, are somehow themselves then an argument for their lacking truth, occasionally or otherwise, well the truth of that is that they're never such an argument." and 4)"Truth is never absent but appearances can be deceiving," and in addendum, "making the truth difficult to apprehend."
"So what was that about a lack of verity?" asked Dejavu. "Should I be concerned with your concern for appearances?"
"I'm not big on coulda shoulda woulda," replied thedope, "I am unconcerned for appearances but rely on fundamentals."