Poor Satan, so misunderstood

That is just the point of the story of the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve were tempted by satan and they gave in - look where that got them!

 

Don't think we ever do die; That is to assume that we are even alive in the first place. Becoming aware of the soul is impossible; It forever remains in the unconscious, yet it reshapes a lot of our decisions.


I think evil is mostly an imbalance more than anything.

Of course an evil act will create a victim, that's just obvious. But underneath it all, we are all connected.

Jesus says to be a Shepard for your fellow man. If one goes a stray, you find it, and you don't really care so much about what happened while it was lost, as long as it found it's way back with the rest of the flock.

 

Yeah, God has the power to forgive whatever you have done, providing you love him and know you have done wrong. But people don't do that, so it shows that satan is having his way with so many.

 

I do not promote Satanism. I do promote the notion that like good, God is the master and creator of evil.

If we take this away from Him then we can take anything away from Him.

Evil has to fit into God's idea of Perfection. Genesis has Him looking at the Garden and saying, it is good. This includes the tree and the serpent does it not?

I take it further and call the Garden Perfect as all of God's works, not just good.

I fully agree here with God.
Why do most Christians disagree with this scripture?

Regards
DL

 

We don't have the power to forgive? I have forgiven others lots of times, before.

I think some can reach Godhood. That's not to say that forgiveness gets you there, but it may be a step.

 

I was applying hope to the soul, not to everyday small hopes and longings and in this sense agree with you.

Why would God hate something that He has created?
Would you have Him destroy the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Destroy good as well as evil?

As to the Perfection of God and His works; tell us when God first created something imperfect.

Regards
DL

 

I don't think God created evil. I think the world has created evil and uses it to try and prove Gods inexistence. Just as there is good in the world there is evil and God loves us enough to allow us to make our own decisions. Just as our fathers do when we grow up.

The Garden of Eden, was perfect - idealic, but then evil came into it and destroyed it. God is aware of what bad is in the world, hence Christ, but allows us to decide.

 

They did not fall from the garden, they leaped at the chance to know the mind of God, knowing good and evil.

Where would we be if they had not?

Can you think of any issue or notion that does not use good and evil as qualifiers? I cannot.

We need the tree. This is why God gave it and why He leaves it here for man to eat.

Regards
DL

 

Good and evil are creations of man, or at least the concepts are. The true meaning behind these concepts are dumbed down because of our anthropomorphic view of our reality.

 

I'm not saying God made us imperfect, I am saying I think the way the world has gone and all the influences in it make us imperfect. It is not an easy thing to do, following jesus makes it easier, but it is still hard to try and do good. Imagine what it would be like to have never lied, cheated, thought immoral thoughts etc. I know I have done ll these things and sadely I think I will do so, although I really try not to. God is perfect, and I strive to be somewhat close to that. But this broken world makes it nigh on impossible.

 

Satan does God's bidding.
Peoples nature comes from God.
If He has placed the power of forgiveness, there then it will manifest.
If He has not, then it will not forgive.

This is faith.

Regards
DL

 

If we are in God's image and He in ours, does it mater who thought up the concept.

It is only faith that places God as the creator within our minds.

Regards
DL

 

He will forgive if you follow Jesus, that is the only way. Satan is attempting to take people away from God and destroy what He has created.

 

Good point.

 

It is the recognition of sin that is the lesson we are to learn.

From Perfection only Perfection can come.

As in the Garden, evil is here in it's Perfection.

Perfection is not stagnant. It evolves as we do.

God, and our understanding of Him evolves as well.

God does not back slide. He never lost the Perfection of the initial blue print, if I can say it that way.

Look around and you will see it.

Regards
DL

 

I know the christian teaching! We need to learn of course, but it is not happening in this world, that is the point I am trying to make.

 

You should not see Satan as having this power. Nothing can destroy anything that God creates unless He wills it.

You have yet to answer my questions as to when God created the first imperfection or come up with an issue that is not quantified by good and evil.

Do not get lazy on me now and just keep throwing objections to my view.

Enlightenment takes work.

Regards
DL

 

It happens to individuals.

You have to reach heaven while you're still on earth.

 

Look again for the first time.

If God was displeased, He would end it all.
Things are going exactly the way He wants.

Regards
DL

 

I am Christian you know!

I don't believe God created anything imperfect, I'm sure I already said this, I think we make His creations imperfect. I know I am far from perfect, but have the ability through God, to be a good person.

I think satan can destroy, if someone decides to follow him, or do what is considered evil in the eyes if God, God will take that as rejection - rightly so too. Hence hell. God doesn't want us to go to hell, we and great thing is we don't have to.