Popeless and Hopeless

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Meagain, Mar 1, 2013.

  1. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    why would opposition to gay marriage stop you from becoming a doctor?
     
  2. bird_migration

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    Because if you oppose gay marriage you can't have a steady hand.
     
  3. GLENGLEN

    GLENGLEN Banned

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    A Professional Person Has To Have An Open Mind,

    She, Has A Closed Mind...:).



    Cheers Glen.
     
  4. bird_migration

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    This is ofcourse nonsense. I know many closeminded professionals who are very good at what they do.
     
  5. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    You have a closed mind. In a different way, but you do.
    Eh I would treat my patients all the same, as nothing is worth risking my career, especially not gays :)
    A professional is a professional.
    If you think doctors are perfect, noble, open-minded people, lol, you are kidding yourself.
    And you made a statement like my graduation is even questionable. Well it's not, get over it.
     
  6. odonII

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    :juggle: I don't envy The Pope's job.
     
  7. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    i would have thought that all a professional would need to hold the name would be consistently high standards of work :afro:
     
  8. GLENGLEN

    GLENGLEN Banned

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    True Professionals Have An Open Mind With

    Every Consultation They Encounter...:).



    Cheers Glen.
     
  9. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    he does have a very difficult job (on this issue, I'm not sure how taxing it is in general)

    most of the allegations against him now come from his actions (or lack thereof) before he became pope, but the inner politics of the vatican are incredibly complex, so it wouldn't surprise me if his hands were tied on the issue.
     
  10. bird_migration

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    It's irrelevant whether a banker approves of gay-marriage when he makes a corporate decision.
     
  11. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    i prefer mine to be hard-working and consistent, and thank them to leave their personal beliefs at the door. especially when their job is to stop me from dying.
     
  12. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    If it only was always this simple...
     
  13. odonII

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    autophobe2e

    Well he was an old man when he started.
    He was originally a liberal theologian, but adopted conservative views after 1968. His prolific writings defend traditional Catholic doctrine and values.
    Doing that for over 40 years must have been hard work.
    I imagine his hands were tied.

    Motto: cooperatores veritatis (cooperators of the truth)
     
  14. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    the allegations revolve around his period as prefect of the CDF (congregation of the doctrine of faith) canon law dictates that all sexual abuses should have been reported to him to begin investigations into them. it is, however, unclear whether they were reported (which makes him culpable for failing to act on the reports) or not.

    he DID send a letter to all of the bishops strongly reminding them that the allegations were to be kept in house and that punishments (including excommunication) would be meted out to anyone who leaked information outside of the church, which sounds a little bit like obstruction of justice to me. most gravely, the letter stated that investigations would not start until the victim turned 18, which is obviously absurd.
     
  15. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    The hypocrisy of the Church is proven by recent comments by various clergy that 50% of priests and those in seminaries are gay. That is the main reason why men become priests, because there is no way they can live up to their Christian family's expectations to get married and have kids... at least until the Church approves of gay marriage.
     
  16. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    The Church will never approve of gay marriage.
    Besides, you said ''it is proven by recent comments''.
    Comments don't prove anything, really.
    Even if it was true (and I doubt it), there's still that other 50%.
     
  17. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    How is it sure that is the main reason to become priest? Is that apparent from those comments? Do you perhaps have a link to a source?
     
  18. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    People cannot understand that someone would choose such a lifestyle, they can't relate to it. So people like this type of explanations.
    The Church has stood against many attacks and lies, this too shall pass.

    Also, the gay lobby these days has become too much in your face.
     
  19. Maelstrom

    Maelstrom Banned

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    The Pope and most Catholic/Christian churches will not. However, there are some Catholic and Christian churches that have no problem with gay marriage and they do perform same-sex ceremonies. Not all Catholics/Christians are close-minded.
     
  20. Piaf

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    What Catholic churches are doing it?
    How can they do it, if it's not Vatican approved?
     
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