The Catholic church operates with an agenda that is anything but holy. They will do whatever is necessary to remain relevant.
Comments that half the clergy are gay were by Bishops who oversee the clergy in their districts. They are in the best position to know (and to take advantage of that situation). As far as the other 50%, probably pederasts, criminals, and perverts of other sorts...who make the gay 50% look like angels... BTW, in ancient Greece and the Near East, the clergy were often prostitutes - both male and female. They had a special way of servicing their "lay" people.
Maelstrom: What Catholic churches are doing it/have no problem with gay marriage and perform same-sex ceremonies?
I also have the feeling the majority of non catholics really can't see the original reason to become a priest anymore and project that onto the priests themselves as in they can't be in it for the original reason anymore neither in this time. But to actually choose to become a priest out of faith and in support to your religion and 'flock' so to speak is a most noble and sacred decision. I understand priests are ridiculed now and generalized with all the bad stuff but the ones who are in it for the right reason (which may as well be at least 50% of them) deserve my respect even if I am not a subject of their faith or agree with everything their religion stands for. To only judge this church and it's clergy and followers by the bad things is always closeminded naturally. This does not mean that we should talk those bad things good or ignore them. I just don't see why people project them on the people who are part of this church for the right reasons, even if those 'right reasons' may seem misguided to them openminded ones
As far as I can see at this point the whole church is waiting for it to go up in smoke. The Church has a lot to answer for with regards to acceptable actions and consequences. I really wish people would educate themselves on the difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. To constantly read the two being used as interchangeable is disheartening in this day and age. Being gay is not a pedophile. Pedophiles are not gay. As long as there is an attitude that they are interchangeable, it will never be addressed let alone rectified. [SIZE=+0][/SIZE]
Open minded? You mean like the Catholic Church is open-minded? The Catholic church is the greatest mind control system ever devised (besides Islam). It's conservative Catholics who aren't open minded. If they were they'd embrace gay marriage, but NO! Give me a break Piaf. Let's not get so personal in this thread. we are discussing the Pope and the Catholic church, NOT each other. You've all been warned.
How can they accept gay marriage when it goes against pretty much basic principles and doctrines? And those shouldn't be sacrificed only to please everyone.
Christ was never anti-gay was he? The Church OVERCOMPENSATES for all the gay clergy in their midst by pretending to be anti-gay. I'm sure if you could witness all the gay sex going on in seminaries and churches you'd leave the church immediately due to your own personal prejudices instilled within you by years of being Catholic. How's that for getting personal (no you don't want to get personal with me...)
What has the open/closemindedness of the catholic church to do with how open- or closeminded we have to be about them? Is it a fight fire with fire stance? I don't get your argument, Skip. We can assume the other 50% of the church that is not homosexual (ludicrous number so far anyway) are pederast, criminal, etc...? I'm sorry but that is just not what I expect from sensible openminded people.
The Church practices ''compassion for the homosexual''. I think that's pretty much how far they can go. Also, I would not leave the Church even if I witnessed that. And I didn't get personal with you, wtf. I don't know why you feel the need to even warn people, we've said even worse stuff in this thread before and moved on. Overcompensating much?
At least with the gay priests, you KNOW what their perversion is and why they are priests, with the other half, you don't. But it's very easy to imagine all sorts of reasons that have to do with hiding, changing one's identity, having access to children, escaping the past, being useless at any other job, being totally brainwashed by Christianity, etc. etc... Really folks, why do you think there are so many secrets the church is hiding? Because they only do good deeds?