Popeless and Hopeless

*facepalm*
That is the type of disgusting attitude some people have toward seeing someone blatantly being abused and doing nothing about it. Better to just ignore it and pretend it is not happening type of attitude.

 

Is that a reason or excuse to condemn indivduals, cause priests remain to be just that imo, you don't know personal at all to be the all sorts of evil and guilty without actual charge?

 

Well, you know what Gabriele Amorth said....there are some evil people in the Church nowadays. There are good ones too. The Church itself will withstand, that's for sure.

Also, Skip, I didn't call you a hypocrite particularly. I said that to all those who would think only my posts were closed-minded.
Yours are just as hateful, at least that's what it looks like to me.
This can't even be a discussion. You've expressed your opinion about the Catholic Church, and there's so much hate, I'm not willing to even discuss it anymore. You made up your mind, obviously, so there is no point.
Just like I have my opinion about the homosexual and their marriage.

 

Nope.
I'm not going to leave the Church just because some perverted freaks do awful things. They're the minority.

 

Terrible projection. Learn to nuancate between believers, the ones who are guilty of these terrible actions and the organisation that is partly responsible. Why does every follower has to be just as disgusting as the most devious member of its religious organisation exactly?

 

And you know this how? Through blind faith?

 

Nonsensical overgeneralization. Perhaps for some but to project that on every priest or person with aspirations to become one is literally closeminded.

 

Those of faith will continue to make any excuse to continue supporting a corrupt system. Much like an abused woman making any excuse for why her husband beats her.

 

Skip.
Moderating a hippy forum is an escape from reality.

No. By googling and being a conspiracy theorist.
You know, how you get your information.

 

not even gonna touch that first line...

doesn't this seem an admission that, regardless of evidence, you are willing to immediately presume some kind of guilt on the part of any priest, and use your imagination to fill in the blanks?

doesn't that seem somewhat unreasonable?

 

It sometimes seems you do not know anyone with faith in person. Or otherwise had mainly really unfortunate experiences. I on the other hand have met and know many people with faith that do not make any excuse to support their religion. Just because you apparently haven't met any does not mean there are not critical christians or even critical catholics. What do you think, the majority of followers condone this behaviour of childraping or something? They will support every decision the church makes because of the pope or some other dogma? Even a lot of catholics have joined the 21st century you know...

 

escapism isn't a criminal act, nor is it a perversion, nor does it involve pedophilia. if it was any of these, we'd routinely lock up novelists. you wrote that 100% of priests were guilty of the above (well, 50%, personally i don't include homosexuality as perversion).

 

Well yeah, just turn it into a joke or two. How convenient.

 

Anyone who defends the Vatican is clearly ignorant of its history... pedophilia aside.

 

i'm no fan of the vatican, but i don't see how it helps the case for the prosecution to muddy the waters of actual historical and contemporary crimes for which there is plenty of evidence by inventing new ones.

 

Another lame assumption. Although technically I do not defend the Vatican