''Post A Picture of Anything'' Thread

The hair and the preposterous sword are two things that have always turned me off these manga fantasy games!

 

Seems like Republicans can too, but with less intelligence than either Holsteins or ants.

 

Hmmmm a Nazi, is a nazi, is a nazi !!!

 

Kinda good looking Nazi though.
I wouldn't say no.

 

But he died in Vietnam (didn't the Viet com do well !!!) so I guess he's just a small pile of bones and mush now !!!

 

He'd have been fighting for the "good guys" , in reference, in Vietnam though. The French knew how good the German fighting was after WW2 and helped smuggle a lot of SS troops through inspection. Before the Vietnam war gained popularity among the media when America got involved, the French army over there were lead by SS officers and fieldmen, not actually the French, at least in the early days. This was an easy way out for many SS troops who were deemed war criminals at the time. Two countries looked after the SS the most, France and Ireland.

There's a good book about one division that was lead by SS officers. The Devils Den or something, into the devils den? I think the story was historical fiction but it focussed on that subject the most.

 

Which they are... just to point out the obvious

 

Not every SS person was ever convicted of anything, in fact like probably 90% walked free. Every SS person was of, how do you say... Importance or person of interest linked to war crimes, but the majority of the SS forces were tied up in the Waffen SS which was tied up in the actual fighting, not execution squads. Still, it took time to work out who was a possible war criminal and who wasn't, so everybody who was tied with the SS was a suspect.

The easiest way to identify an SS person at checkpoint was for them to lift their arms. If they had their blood type tattooed under their arm, they were SS. Easy way of knowing which blood you need if injured, evidently an easy way to out yourself as well. lol.

I think you're just trying to bait me into going into Defense mode because you know my grandfather was SS. He lived a decorated and colorful life after the war as not a war criminal.

 

A lot of former Nazis were taken to the US by the American authorities, and became valuable to American industry, like f'r instance Werner Von Braun - didn't make them any less Nazi though !!!

 

Ah, good ol' operation paperclip

If America really did get to the moon I know it was only because of Von Braun and in that regard.. Damn straight they got to the moon, every day of the week.

By dismissing the moon landings I'd be dismissing a German space program and Deutsche superiority! What kind of Deutsch lass would I be?!! I tell ya what I've just changed my whole agenda about the moon landings.

From this day forward, Man made it to the moon!

 

Hmmmm - Ist du a gute little Nazi ??? He was asked ???

 

I'm not. I am reacting to your statement about the average SS member (which can also be perceived just as easily as a bait/provocation attempt.. just sayin). I'm not saying every SS trooper has committed war crimes. I'm pointing out the obvious that the average SS trooper was perceived as a war criminal for a reason (either for serving out of ideology or because of actual war crimes) not falsely deemed as such.

 

So just to be clear, I'm not trying to call or paint your grandfather as a war criminal here, but you understand this statement about how the average SS member lived after the war doesn't change shit about possible war crimes (or, wether directly or indirectly, adding to them out of ideological motivation) committed in the war, right?

 

I disagree and believe that if people were educated enough on who and what the SS was and the divisions, recruitment and overall position of the SS then those people could be overlooked as to what they were. 99% soldiers. (not a shot at your education)

The amount of SS men trialled and prosecuted was a fraction of the entire force, it's just popular myth and quite frankly, an American indulgence and obsession that paints them as men in black uniforms or evil scientists. At the time they were only regarded and respected as a force you didn't want to come across in battle, as the SS were by far the most and well trained units probably of the entire war.

Not to mention the things I've mentioned in the past, where a lot of the war crimes weren't actually committed by German people but the volunteer groups and departments, recruitment by foreign nations. In reality the blitzkrieg moved so fast they didn't have time to clean up the towns they went through, not the Waffen-SS, no that was left up to units like the SS-Einsatzgruppen and now we are venturing down the path of a war criminal organisation, but the 50,000 men of say SS Division Wiking 5th that were surrounded and chose death over capture, they weren't war criminals, they were soldiers.

So it's that education I'm speaking of, that's only 2 instances or examples I've made, both under the SS branch yet both completely different scenarios. So at the time yes it made sense to hold back any SS troop, but not nowadays. If you meet an SS person after the 50s, chances were he was just a soldier and I think it would be unfair at that point to label them as anything but a soldier.

And not just a soldier to allied countries either, the SS has become an immortal presence in the history of war, they were so feared by the allies because of what they could do on the battlefield, not for their war crimes, but for how they fought and how they were drilled has galvanised them as a force to have been reckoned with.

And the Allies had a rough idea of who they were after in terms of SS units, they knew that most of them were innocent, they just had to go through the formalities and process or being cleared.

I just think with poor knowledge or education (again not directed at you) then the some people fate is suffer akin to saying all policeman are racist or asshole when we know that isn't the case. But the thing is the notorious wrap of the SS if you don't understand will always hold them under that umbrella of scrutiny, yet 99% of those millions of soldiers were only soldiers. You had to be pretty up there for Eichmann or Himmler to even look at you for anything further down the chain and Himmler had even said he did not want the weight or burden of War crimes to effect a Germans ability to concentrate and fight in the war, so those responsibilities were shifted to volunteer nations which I think Allies were aware of too which made it even harder for them to prosecute becausd they'd just flee back to their homelands uncaught and unbothered by the simple fact they weren't German.

I'd be willing to wager that, of the amount of SS men charged after the war, that just as many foreign volunteers were off Scott free based on that they were able to go back to their homelands free of harassment from the allies, which we know happened in Latvia, Estonian and Lithuanian sectors, because they disbanded their criminal groups to continue fighting the Reds into their 50s.

And just like the obsession and myth I talk about, it seems that, if you weren't German then the world has no interest in you.

 

I'm sorry but if he owns a white horse and doesnt put a unicorn horn on it then he's worthless imo

(I know you posted this a while ago lol but I'm just catching up on this thread )