Pot and pregnancy

Discussion in 'Medicinal Cannabis and Marijuana' started by purple_granola, Jul 20, 2005.

  1. wiggy

    wiggy Bitch

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    Nope it wont be reported as abuse (even though it is) a pregnant woman can do what she likes while pregnant and when the baby comes out then the baby will have treatment for whatever she has done - which IMO its pretty shite
     
  2. campfire-fly

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    JUst change the injestion form, and there will be No problems ir you eat the marijuana instead of smoking it. The actual act of smoking it is the only harmful aspect of the whole thing.
     
  3. nova

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    Just wondering, do all you negative and judgemental people go up to a pregnant woman who is smoking a cigarette and berate her? Do you tell her to kill her baby? Do you tell her she is not thinking about her baby? I am guessing that you have never done that nor would you. Have some respect for peoples choices. Just becuz its not right for you doesnt mean you have to make sure its not right for everyone else.
     
  4. MikeE

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    Do I volunteer to give good advice to strangers when not requested? No, I don't very often.
    But when someone asks my opinion, they get what they ask for: my opinion.
     
  5. wiggy

    wiggy Bitch

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    No I wouldnt do that - unless I knew her then I would, I would tell her the truth that she IS harming her baby.
    You said have some respect for peoples choices - maybe take some of your own advise and have some for ours (people against)

    Sorry but how the hell is it right for the baby? How is it right that just because a silly woman wants to smoke weed when she is pregnant. You are ment to give your baby born or unborn 110% but how the hell can someone do that if they have a spliff hanging out of their mouth.
     
  6. nova

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    I do see all the negative points. I am not happy that pot is the only thing that can keep food in my stomach. I worry about my baby. I want it to be healthy and I want to be healthy.
    I am trying to see from an outside opinion becuz I was on your side before. If I just assumed that the "silly woman WANTS to smoke pot while pregnant" Ya I see why you can put her down. If there were no medical issues, I would not smoke pot. If I smoked like I used to then I would be irresponsible. I dont go and get blazed anymore. I stopped that the minute I thought I could be pregnant. I havent gotten "stoned" for months. I only smoke a few hoots to make the nausea settled and thats it.
    You are suppossed to give your baby 110% as you say. SO that would include eating nutritious food, taking prenatal vitamins (which do prevent many things) and resting. Basically taking care of your body so it can grow the baby. If you didnt read my past posts then I will say again... how long would my baby and I survive if I cant eat? If I dont eat then the baby doesnt eat. I asked how long it would take for a human to starve to death? How long would it take a baby?

    If I wanted to smoke pot regardless of being pregnant then I would be irresponsible. If I needed to smoke it to be healthy and I am doing everything my doctor says, then I am doing everything I can to have a healthy baby.
    I do agree that some women are irresponsible and dont care what they do to the baby. I say a woman who smokes the entire pregnancy and doesnt try to quit or cut back is irresponsible.
     
  7. 40oz and chronic

    40oz and chronic 'Nuff Said

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    MYTH: MARIJUANA USE DURING PREGNANCY DAMAGES THE FETUS. Prenatal marijuana exposure causes birth defects in babies, and, as they grow older, developmental problems. The health and well being of the next generation is threatened by marijuana use by pregnant women.

    FACT: Studies of newborns, infants, and children show no consistent physical, developmental, or cognitive deficits related to prenatal marijuana exposure. Marijuana had no reliable impact on birth size, length of gestation, neurological development, or the occurrence of physical abnormalities. The administration of hundreds of tests to older children has revealed only minor differences between offspring of marijuana users and nonusers, and some are positive rather than negative. Two unconfirmed case-control studies identified prenatal marijuana exposure as one of many factors statistically associated with childhood cancer. Given other available evidence, it is highly unlikely that marijuana causes cancer in children.
     
  8. mr.morrison

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    i still wouldnt risk it. it does kill brain cells, so when a baby is still forming a centimeter big brain, i wouldnt want to risk the baby having mantal retardation becasue of my smoking.
     
  9. Lainey

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    i hate babies. kill 'em all. .. as metallica would put it. if u wanna get high get fukn high, ur baby probably likes it anyways. and if it comes out to grow and be retarded or somethin, does that give it less value? life requires benevolent quality; disabled, retarded, or like everybody else. if it comes out 'abnormal' and u are upset then maybe you need just dont know true love and respect. a true mother can teach her child to live life to the fullest, even if it was forced marijuana before it was born. if babies werent meant to take in weed, they wouldnt.
     
  10. Lainey

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    get high. let the baby grow to be different. a true decent mother could teach her child to live life to it's required benevolent quality. and if babies werent meant to take it weed, they wouldnt.
     
  11. LuMpYtRiChOmEy

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    Damn it pains me to see so many fikkin ignorant stupid gullible drones of society swallowin the sludge that the powers that be feedem threw alla theyr info portals. Fact is Herb is a legitamit releaver of many ailments and conditions that plague us. Before the duponts and pharmacutical companys forced Herb out of legality Folks would use it as a pain killer and calmer durring childbirth and it was used to relieve morning sikness too. Now with all the crapp commin outta the TV from your politicians they got most fools fooled into trustin some kinda krapp in pills that they made in a labritory with all kindsa chemicals to do the job. Herb is harmless and helpfull. It has always been a great comfort to pretgnant women threwout the ages. This great smear campain from the feds is tryin to pull the pollyester over the eyes of "the masses". Herb is harmless, helpfull and non toxic. Praise the Lord and pray that this Herb is legalized soon, I think the future of our world depends on it. Wait and see the many wonders atributed to this plant once its legal taboo's are removed. Use the Herb God gave ya with the law that He put in your heart. Blessins on ya thread starter. Blessins on you and your new Baby :) !
     
  12. ~MorningManiacMusic~

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    Man, there are some fucked up people here!Why are you telling her to get an abortion or to adopt>??!!!

    Have the kid.
     
  13. ConcealedCulture

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    Yeah new, toxic, synthetic drugs that haven't been extensively used/tested by humans on humans. People have been using Cannabis for thousands of years.

    Smoking pot kills braincells. Cannabinoids themselves are not neurotoxic, what kills cells is the carbon monoxide from combusting the plant material.

    Which is why I would definitely suggest using a vaporizer if you must use Cannabis while pregnant. I also wouldnt put any of your recreational desires over the child's health. I dont see any harm in moderately using Cannabis during a pregnancy to relieve symptoms that could be damaging to the baby, like no appetite, nausea/vomiting, or extreme stress or anxiety. But I don't think you should be blazing with friends just to chill either during this time.

    Best wishes
     
  14. ConcealedCulture

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    The drug war has really indoctrinated everyone with bullshit. Both of my parents were big time hippies, and I went to Florida State, didnt graduate from there, but hey I still went. My sister graduates next month at the top of her class in nursing school at a big medical university. There are so many legal things that pregnant women use that would be more likely to totally fuck a kid up.
     
  15. PurpleGel

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    just because THC isn't neurotoxic in the ADULT brain, does NOT mean it doesn't fuck up the developing nervous systems of the fetus! don't treat fetuses like "little adults"--they're not!

    if you smoke weed while pregnant, you have to accept the risk of having a fucked up baby and/or a baby that doesn't develop properly (in several dimensions) into normal adulthood. don't think that if a baby is born "normal" that the weed has had no effect. it can certainly lay down some landmines for the kid during the future developmental process...

    this is not to be taken lightly. you're choosing whether or not to play god with this child. and god creates some really twisted designs--don't you forget it.
     
  16. LuMpYtRiChOmEy

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    Pharmacutical companys play god. Like another poster said,somma the pills an shitt they give pregnant wimmen are more dangerous and less harmless than Herb. God put the answer rite in front of us but the pharmicutical companys cant charge ya for what a plant dose. so THEY play god. Marijuanna's not toxic in children adults fetuses or lab rats.
     
  17. PurpleGel

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    unfortunately, a substance doesn't have to be neurotoxic to exert a negative affect, especially on a developing fetus...

    i'm very much against the obscene prevalence and (mis)use of pharmaceutical drugs, as many people here are. however, just because marijuana is natural, doesn't make it safe to use during pregnancy.

    if preggies smoke pot, they run the risk of an assortment of developmental problems from short-term fetal growth retardation to long-term impairments in cognition that will show once the child begins the later developmental stages. plain and simple:

    "Important evaluations of the long-term effects of prenatal marijuana exposure on child development have been reported by Fried (2002a, 2002b) and by Cornelius and coworkers (2002). Prenatal marijuana use resulted in somewhat shorter stature in offspring; IQ was about the same; basic visuoperceptual skills were about the same. However, problem solving involving visual interpretations and analytical skills was adversely affected. Marijuana exposure in utero had modestly adverse effects on executive functioning in offpsring at ages 9 to 12 years. Maternal nicotine cigarette smoking contributed to more problems in offpsring than did exposure to marijuana smoke. Richardson and coworkers (2002) noted that at age 10, children whose mothers smoked marijuana during pregnancy were signficantly impaired in measurements of learning, memory, and impulsivity." (Julien, 2005)

    Anyone thinking that marijuana is safe to use during pregnancy is living with their heads up their asses. if the argument involves whether to use marijuana OR some other harmful drug, marijuana may be the safer option. regardless, nobody in their right mind would advocate the use of marijuana by a pregnant women.
     
  18. LuMpYtRiChOmEy

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    Marijuanas only been demonized for bout less than a hundred years, and by gready bloodthirsty profeteers too! I think Il believe the Wizzdom of the ages. I dont know julien but I know that marijuanas bout the safest comfort a pregnant or birthing woman could have. The asians have been usin it for centuries and so have other cultures, it works for everyone but the pharm co,s and babilonians.
     
  19. PurpleGel

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    you're way off, here, i think. you see, i'm in FULL support of marijuana. i understand the history of marijuana VERY well. i understand how amazing and "safe" it is, especially in comparison to all the awful shit out in the human world. man, you're preaching to the choir...

    still, no one in their right mind would ADVOCATE the use of drugs during critical stages of a mother's pregnancy. as i already asked, is the argument between using pot or not, or is it between using pot or something else that is potentially worse? pot is NOT good for the fetus! this is well researched and documented... the only reason i care about posting in this thread is because here is a woman who needs to understand that if she CHOOSES to smoke weed during her pregnancy, she runs the risk of permanently fucking up her baby. does the baby want to be fucked up in life? probably not. would you rather harm the baby with pot or harm the baby with dangerous opiates or pharmies? i'd choose pot too... the point, however, is that this woman is taking a RISK and she needs to understand what's involved. i'm done with this... if her baby grows up to be an impulsive person who has memory problems and can't make decisions, then don't say i didn't warn her. it just MIGHT happen...

    p.s. memory and analytic skills weren't nearly as important in history as they are becoming today. it's okay for a bunch of 2000-year-old asians to be stoned and having stoned babies. it's not the same today.
     
  20. LuMpYtRiChOmEy

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    I dont think she should smoke while shes pregnant but I figure it might do her good to make some butter and put it in her chocolate milk or if she couldnt get that down maby some hot penutbutter herb crackers. Im recomendin that if she likes it she could use the Herb wizzley. Mabey she could eat a lil bit of hash too. I figure that if she just uses enoughf to sooth her discomfort and ease her ailment it prolly wouldnt be too much on the kid. Just wait till they legalize it, then it'l be in everything! They already figured out how good it is, now they just gotta figure out how to comercialize it. Do we all realy need to wait till the gov't says its ok till we use it? I think it WAS in pregnant woman meds before the duponts smeared the good Herb. Smater of fact I think it was in lotsa over the counter meds back then. Even back then they knew it was less harmfull than asperin. Tellin a preg woman not to use Herb wisely is like worst than tellin her not to take asperin. What I mean is, I think Herb is safer for a preg woman than asperin.
     

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