Preparing Trip Report for I.V. Ketamine, MxE, and MDMA Shards

That is not what I am saying, I am saying that addiction has an emotional root. Although I happen to also not be a drug addict, yes.

 

What is your definition of addiction? And I disagree, addiction does not require an emotional root. Its the case in many, but this is not completely true. But what it all comes down to is what you define addiction. I consider myself a drug addict because I use drugs on a regular basis to fufill desires and some needs. It is not a bad thing, it is natural.

 

That is not addiction. Addiction has a fundamental aspect to it, a lack of control over use. Can you stop taking LSD regularly? Without falling apart as a person? If the answer is yes, then you are not addicted. regular drug use is not the same as addiction.

 

I agree with Writer, lack of control over use is one of the key elements of addiction. Regardless of how badly it is destroying ones body, mind, social life, family or whatever, their inability to stop is what comprises an addiction as opposed to a habit.

Addiction is more than using drugs to fulfill a need.. that is why we don't consider people who drink coffee every day to be addicts. Sure, they are using coffee to fulfill a particular need/desire (alertness, taste, whatever), but if they HAD to, most people could stop drinking coffee without their lives unraveling as a result of not having the stimulant...


Drug use and addiction are two entirely different things, and are often erroneously stated to be one in the same.

 

Of course. So you wouldnt say someone using heroin everyday is addicted if they can stop cold turkey after 3 years of daily use, get sick, but never use it again. And be completely fine with their life.

 

Do you think that you could stop using all drugs tomorrow if you decided to? Without any problems? Genuinely curious. I haven't smoked pot for a couple weeks but was pretty surprised at the cravings I felt for the first week.

 

That is still addiction because the drug in question, heroin, causes physical dependency (the getting sick part). Addiction is multifactorial I think it has emotional roots, has lack of self-control, and usually comes with physical dependence. I think in your example the person is 100% addicted, and demonstrates enormous willpower when finally deciding to quit.

I have taken dozens of breaks from pot, and I know all about those cravings. For me, and for everyone I speak with about pot cravings, it comes down to behavioral habituation. I smoke pot before bed. Almost every night, for around 4-5 years now. My difficulty in stopping smoking pot suddenly would only be the same kind of difficulty that I would experience in trying to quit this forum cold turkey. It is something that I am used to doing. It doesn't mean I lack self-control when I smoke pot, or use this forum, and even though it might be QUITE DIFFICULT for me to quit either one of those activities, that is not what "addiction" is about.

 

My name is guerillabedlam and I am a hip forums addict.

 

HGI. All of us at HF want your life to go the best for you it can. None of us can tell you what to do or how to think, I'm don't want to try to do that though it might come out that way unintentionally. The way you say you are unafraid of death is something to think about on a personal level. Age 22 is a little early on to go, and is your fearlessness towards death indicating your fear of life? [Don't answer this publicly, just think for yourself.]

It sounds like you are hurting yourself and none of us on here know your situation as well as the people you are with in real life on a day-to-day basis. Pick a few close friends you trust and know will respect you, and have a heart-to-heart with them, as gay as it sounds, but it seems you are convincing yourself you are happy from the outside instead of actually being happy from the inside.

Whenever I feel my life start going to shit I cut it all out. Cut out the alcohol and drugs and just have mary jane with me. Focus on work, school, keeping the house and your person clean, with haircut, shave, and well dressed. Just give it a try if its right for you.

 

You totally mis interpreted my charecter. He doesnt have a lack of self control, he uses heroin every day because he enjoys it, and sees nothing wrong with it. He doesnt want to stop until the whichever number year I put as his stopping point (too lazy to go look) because thats his decision, not because it has ruined his life, but because he is bored of using heroin every day. Is this person an addict? this is what i was refferring to

 

Even if he's not at all mentally addicted and could quit cold turkey without ever looking back, and just have to deal with the withdrawals, then he's remarkably strong willed, but still an addict because he has a physical dependency. While his mind may not be addicted, his body is, so he is addicted, and he is an addict.

Your point would be better made with a drug that causes no physical dependence. A person who smokes pot every day because they enjoy it and who eventually grows tired of it and quits wouldn't be said to be an addict, because he has no physical or mental dependency. Only one is necessary to be addicted to something, and the physical aspect of it is often much more serious.

 

You get to decide this? Just because I have a different view on what I use, how I use, and how much I use doesn't contribute to shit but a misguided opinion, not a fact. There is nothing wrong with me shooting up anything I feel like shooting up. Just because you eat, snort, or whatever your drugs doesn't make you a damn bit better or more responsible then any of us. Get real.

 

well it does make him more responsible. maybe not better, but more responsible for sure.

 

You can get offended by people judging you on this site, but you really should take it as a hint. We are not sober people, I and many others on here like to go far out there But when it's to the point that people find you passed out with needles in your arm and blood pooling it's serious. These people ARE more responsible then you, like it or not.

 

If you think there is no difference between methods of ingestion then you are missing a lot. There is a world of difference between the person that eats MDMA and the person that injects MDMA directly into their bloodstream with a hypodermic needle. It's not about being a "better" person, you doth protest too much. It's about balance. You are closer to the grave where you are than most other people on this website. In fact the ways that you use remind me only of one other person here, Cosmo, who apparently died a few days ago. He was also all about IVing drugs and combining them.

If you're going to be doing stuff like passing out in pools of blood then you have to accept that people are going to have opinions about it. When a website full of people who put research chemicals into their bodies tells you "slow down man", that's the universe giving you a big sign, if you'll only listen to it. Or you can take the low road and say "well fuck you its my decision so NYAH", your call.