President Obama Is Doing A Good Job

Discussion in 'People' started by nanettetron, Feb 28, 2014.

  1. odonII

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    17-18 is a little too young.

    He seems to have been an idealist. Wanting to do good. But joining the army isn't necessarily the best place for an idealist, and isn't necessarily going to provide an opportunity to do good.
     
  2. AmericanTerrorist

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    From what I've just read today he was kicked out of the coast guard for psychological issues BEFORE joining the army. So why did the army let him in?

    In any case, I know he deserted. (as I was saying earlier-he wasn't meant for war and the military. It sucks he had to join and go to war to find that out.) I don't think that is at question really (whether he deserted). I think what is at question is....was the working w the terrorists or just a prisoner? I don't think people really know that yet and that is why I said that although I do think he should have been brought back home, yes, I think that should be investigated. And if he was working w them, then by all means, put him on trial. But I think there should be a thorough investigation as to the second part first.
     
  3. *Yogi*

    *Yogi* Resident Racist

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    Sorry odon, I get plenty of sex. That and my spellcheck sometimes will post another example of the word, Thanks for pointing that out grammar Nazi! Lost with out ya!


    For a person to tell me I cant own a mp4 or ar-15 is trying to violate my rights. 6 shots? Yeah fucking right! Nothing wrong with 30 round magazines or a 100 round drum, Just make sure its in the right hands. Which most if not all places do anymore, Because of the anal retentive laws now.
    Not my fault people go nuts, That's what happens in an over populated country. But I know ill have a fighting chance and will go down shooting if I find myself in that position.
    My question is, Just how are these kids and nut balls getting the weapons and ammo? I have fla/ccw papers and had local cops show up to validate a couple purchases I have had.
    I have the most clean background you will find and no matter what, The sellers don't take chances anymore. Yes, It is against my rights to have to go through that after going through what I did to get certification, But if it helps, So be it! But don't tell me what I can or cant own, They are sporting rifles, Also not my fault they make great weapons of war!


    Not Obama, The deserter who walked off base and called back saying he wasn't coming back and he 'was fighting on the wrong side', But im sure that will be covered up too. His platoon is trying to relay the truth, Dems hate it and hide it!


    That's sucks AT, I know many who got in too deep over their head and no fault of their own. Like you, I believe in certain ages to do certain things. If you wait until you are 24, Its free with pell/grants/student loans is the only thing owed. How do most college kids get money? Student loans and beer, Puts them in a bad position when they don't work and go to school and study.
    The young 18+ should be in the military. Its a better time to train a mind that's not fully developed and can be broken down and rebuilt as YOU wanted when you signed up. You want to be a killer, Infantry. If you want to be a doctor after the service, Medic or corpsman. They will not question the orders given and are loyal to and defend our country.
    They get home, They have $$ from overseas and the GI bill to pursue any avenue they want.
    But 4x the amount is what loan sharks charge, Id tell them fuck off and not pay by doing what you are doing until 'you have to'.
     
  4. odonII

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    > < too much info.


    How do you make sure they are in the right hands?


    "The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence"

    United States v. Miller (1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a “reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia”.

    Where does it say you to have the right to an mp4 , ar15 and 100 rounds?

    When did you join a well regulated militia?

    You are making a phony argument because you are limiting the the ownership of guns

    IMHO, if you chaps want guns then it should be a registered gun and be one per household.
    Did he say that? I dunno.
     
  5. *Yogi*

    *Yogi* Resident Racist

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    Now you are just being stupid and posting flat out LIE'S. We have THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS, Regardless of how you or the dem's want to spin it.

    Im not going to register my weapons, No reason to and I don't have too. That's the beauty of it!

    How am I making a 'phony' argument? There should be no limit on how many guns a person wants to own or how many of that type, If they pass the already anal retentive 'laws' to prevent shootings.

    One per household, LMFAO, Maybe one per corner of each room, Loaded and ready! Its my RIGHT to do so.
    Only communists want to 'limit' the rights of the people!

    Yes, He said that! Along with a bunch of other crap the the media is trying so hard to hide to save face for the idiot exchange. His platoon is doing all they can to let the truth be know on the media whores and social media.
    He is a Taliban muslim piece of shit and should hang from the nearest tree at the earliest convenience!
     
  6. odonII

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    I just posted what the supreme court has said.,

    I think it is phony because you are saying everybody has the right to a gun and then saying how are these nut jobs getting guns. Which sounds like you don't want nut jobs to have any guns. So is it all or certain people?

    I will have to look if he actually said that.
    Maybe he meant the Afghan people not the Taliban.
     
  7. BlackBillBlake

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    You a communist then? I ask because the idea that this person should be summarily strung up might be seen as limiting his rights under the constitution to a fair trial. Also I believe the death penalty is usually reserved for murder, not desertion, although I might be wrong about that.
     
  8. AmericanTerrorist

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    Yep, I'm currently not paying them and not allowing them to take any income tax refunds we (as a family) get at the end of the year by filing in a special way. I figure when my kids are older and I do go back to work outside the house... then sure, they'll garnish my wages but maybe I can find a way to make the loan smaller. No way 3 grand should have grown like that ....esp. w them refusing to accept smaller monthly payments. (What can be afforded.)

    But any case, back to Bergdahl... I just don't personally know enough of what he did say or his intentions (other than to desert)... so I am all for an investigation to find out exactly what is what.

    And about the age to join the military... yea, I know all those things you said, Yogi, are true.

    But I'll just say it this way.... I am personally anti war. And I hope to God my son, when he is 17, doesn't decide to join the military because I will still personally view him as a kid, ya know? If someone isn't old enough to drink in this country.... why are they old enough to decide that? I have known many people through the years who joined the military (before the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan) simply to do things like....well, the one guy did it to get away from a heroin problem and Baltimore. He was 18. Shortly after the wars happened. (So my point in using that as an example is I am aware that many young people do make the decision to join the military for what I wouldn't consider the right or good reasons.)
     
  9. AmericanTerrorist

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    I think he's trying to say treason.... which it is also used for or could be used for.

    Im not trying to say I agree Bergdahl should be charged w treason... I don't know enough about what all happened w him.
     
  10. thedope

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    Is he earnest, yes. Executive power is fundamentally flawed and prone to error as the constitutionality of things is constantly brought before the court. Therefor constitutionally invested power of the executive is subject to interpretation and lacks the capacity to legitimately execute on the behalf of constitutional authority. It amounts to what he believes is right. Most of time I imagine the belief is not fundamental relying on the input of advisers so you can't assign policy to one individual.

    Fundamental is the question do you get value from your own efforts.
     
  11. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    I hate to be naive; but what of Nashville, Chicago jazz musicians, New Orleans arts council type lobbying for "AND" against Obama's administration politics. Let's reduce that gasoline waste. Should America be self-suffiecient for Oil. I cry no.:biker:


    I hear Obama got a clean bill of health anyway.
     
  12. wildjack

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    God blesses everybody!!!
     

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