Processed food.

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by mmj10, Dec 30, 2010.

  1. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Because the earliest known civilizations only began 5-6,000 years ago as well as the first alphabets and parchments for writing.

    You have ignored all rational thought to believe in what you want to believe. You're suggesting maps existed before civilization, parchment/paper and any large permanent human settlements.

    Not to mention the fact someone in 1513 if trying to make an accurate map for a military wouldn't use maps from 9,000 years in the past(despite the fact none would exist considering there were no libraries, universities or even settlements in general to protect them) when the 16th century was a great era of exploration and trade around the world, as well as taken knowledge from the Byzantine empire which they just conquered.
     
  2. lillallyloukins

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    well, that is what you have been taught... there is evidence which strongly suggests that civilizations are a lot older... just one example being the rain erosion on the sphynx (the last time that kind of climate would have existed in egypt would also have been approx 10,000-12,000 years ago, some may argue even longer than that... about 25,000 years ago) and it's links to the astrological sign of leo... (the constellation which rose in the morning sky approx 10,000 years ago from the sphynx's standpoint)... why is that thinking irrational in your opinion? is it because it doesn't tally with current culturally/academically accepted thinking?

    why is rational so important to you? rational is one way, intuitional and thinking outside the box is another... having said that, i think what i have said so far IS rational given the facts available to us all so far...

    Piri Reis, the man, may not have realised the importance of the maps he used to make his own map... what about the library in alexandria? there may well have been other libraries before that... as i said before, these VERY ancient original maps were from different parts of the world, India and Arabia etc...
     
  3. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    By around 3400 BC, the monsoon retreated south to approximately where it is today,[15] leading to the gradual desertification of the Sahara.[16]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahara#Climate_history
     
  4. thedope

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    Of the Reis map. The discovery caused an international sensation, as it presented the only then known copy of a world map of Christopher Columbus (1451-1506).

    Am I missing something, doesn't appear to make claim to ancient sources.
     
  5. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Nice way to stay on topic :rolleyes:



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  6. thedope

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    How large is the average mind?
    If there is nothing we can do to change anything, how can pot be proven to expand the mind?

    Wrap your mind around that, if you can.

    Food processing is part and parcel to agriculture, and has been so since the beginning of agriculture.
     
  7. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    True but you have to admit the primitive means by which food was processed and stored for long periods of times were not as detrimental to human health, i.e. storage huts, underground pits, root cellars, drying, smoking, cooking, pickling, ……:2thumbsup:


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  8. odon

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    Carcinogens in Smoked Food

    During smoking, the smoked food becomes impregnated with a lot of carcinogenic by-products of wood pyrolysis (decomposition at high temperature). Incomplete combustion of wood or plant materials will result in a range of harmful chemicals, such as bacteriostatic phenolic compounds and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons etc. Many of them can cause cancer in human beings. Previous studies have shown a strong association between consumption of smoked food and stomach cancer.

    Cooking Tips: 1.Do not eat smoked food. Take fresh ones where possible.
     
  9. hotwater

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    You're right but considering the alternative (starvation) primitive man was left with little choice; I mean he couldn’t exactly plug in his new stainless steel maytag refrigerator [​IMG]


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  10. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    True. I'm also looking at this with hindsight. You know what I'm saying though, right?
     
  11. thedope

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    We win some loose some I think. Grain storage has led to outbreaks of ergo induced levity and contributes to vermin populations which in turn are vectors for disease. The raising of domestic animals has been the primary incubator for human pathogens.

    All the same, I do agree that the food system is polluted with synthetic compounds.
     
  12. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    salty

    [just being a pest, i like real pickles very much]
     
  13. lillallyloukins

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    piri reis himself wrote that he used many maps from various sources, a columbus map being one of them... we are left to speculate as to the ages of the other maps... my point being that if topographical features of ice-covered land is shown, then some of the maps must have been older than the end of the last ice-age, approx 10,000 years ago...
     
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    i know i said it was off topic but actually it is on topic because Amoxyl said she supposed i'd like to go back to the stone age state of affairs and i was trying to say why i didn't believe the stone-age primitiveness existed quite as it has been taught in schools...
     
  15. hotwater

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    You’re right there’s no possible way we could know what was in the mind of primitive man his wants, needs, desires, aspirations, goals, how he perceived the world around him


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  16. thedope

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    I think this point was already adequately dismissed by contravening fact.
     
  17. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Fact- Every single member of the human population has an expiration date.
     
  18. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Maybe the problem isn't that life expectancy is going down due to our food or habits. Maybe the problem is people's view on life, maybe we cling to life too tightly. I think if more people were open to the idea that all life is eternal, we are all part of all there is, ever was, and ever will be, everything is the way it's supposed to be, and that when we die, it's really only going to sleep for a little while, they wouldn't give as much of a shit about how long they live. That doesn't mean one shouldn't live well. But we're all going to die. If it's at 62 or 79, who cares?
     
  19. thedope

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    I agree with you on this issue.

    Technology that works cannot appropriately be called primitive. It is equally in error for the New Guinea tribe to consider an aviator who lands among them to be a god as it is for the aviator to consider the New Guinean a savage. It speaks to the fact that neither truly understand the technology of a particular time or circumstance.
     
  20. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    From what I've read about it it does somewhat claim ancient sources, or at least very obscure sources. Due to the extreme accuracy of the map it's believed (by some) that the map must have been drawn from above. At a time when nothing supposedly flew in the sky.
     
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