protest hezbollahs war against isreal

Discussion in 'Protest' started by jonny2mad, Jul 20, 2006.

  1. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    "Jan Egeland, the UN humanitarian chief, has accused Hezbollah of "cowardly blending" among Lebanese civilians and causing the deaths of hundreds during two weeks of cross-border violence with Israel.

    The militant group has built bunkers and tunnels near the Israeli border to shelter weapons and fighters, and its members easily blend in among civilians." They've been doing this for so long it's sickening.
     
  2. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    They have also rebuilt homes and lives. Who speaks to these strengths?

    I think they are only militant because they feel those they love and protect are in jeopardy. Were our "Minutemen" terrorists? because they sought to protect their homeland, and they didn't wear uniforms or conform to the laws of war of the day?
     
  3. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    Yes, they were. Any other questions?
     
  4. Ginger Ali

    Ginger Ali Seeker

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    :eek: How good for you that you don't hang around on some stupid internet forums then

    Seriously, man, if I can't express one honest anti-war opinion on a protest forum without getting some absurd smart-ass comment back, I'm not sure if I even want to save the world.
     
  5. DQ Veg

    DQ Veg JUSTYNA'S TIGER

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    I am neither for nor against Hezbollah, but since the early 80's Hezbollah has provided it's over half a million members with free medical care and an extensive educational system, among many other things, which is certainly more than the Israelis ever would have given them if they had lived in Israeli occupied areas. Hezbollah members are not just para-military people: the majority of them are not fighting anybody. The automatic implication that we get from what the Israelis are saying about all this is that if someone is a member of the Hezbollah organization that they deserve to die-and then by wider implication everybody else in Lebanon.
     
  6. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    You're totally free to express anti-war, pro terrorists opinions. And I'm free to make absurd smart ass comments. But neither one of those facts should change your determination to save the world, Ginger. Maybe you're the messiah we've all been waiting for.
     
  7. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    I lose more respect for you with each post I read. Dude, what the hell are you talking about? Not one Israeli has ever said everyone in Lebanon deserves to die. Not even you or Stevens could produce a link from a hate website with that quote. Get a grip.
     
  8. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Yet in the same vein, many of Israel's policies are fundamentally genocidal against Palestinians.
     
  9. DQ Veg

    DQ Veg JUSTYNA'S TIGER

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    Well, I couldn't care less how much respect you've got for me. I'm just telling the truth. The Israelis are indiscriminately bombing Lebanon, not just Hezbollah, and not just para-military people that are carrying out operations against Israel. They've even been repeatedly bombing convoys of ambulances, for God's sake, and destroying the entire ifrastructure of the country.

    Of course, the Israelis are not going to come out and explicitly say that they want to destroy Lebanon, even though that's what they're doing anyway. They have to try to maintain their squeaky-clean holier-than-thou 'anti-terrorist' image, the same image that the US is trying to maintain.

    The head of the Israeli Army the other day said that they were 'going to set Lebanon back 20 years' and that's exactly what they've been doing. He didn't say they were going to set terrorism back 20 years, rather the whole damn country.
     
  10. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    Just to clarify - you're telling the truth according to DQ Veg. There is very little actual truth in your statements. I already stated that it's horrible that Lebanon is being hit so hard. What other points are you really making?
     
  11. DQ Veg

    DQ Veg JUSTYNA'S TIGER

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    No, every thing I've posted in here are objective facts. I've posted a number of links from many news media sources, even sources that are traditionally pro-Israeli. These are not my opinions about what's going on-they're objective facts. Maybe you should read what the news media is reporting about this stuff, including the links that we post, instead of attacking the people that are simply conveying the information, and are upset about what's happening.
     
  12. Shambhala Peace

    Shambhala Peace Senior Member

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    Obviously you get all your information from Rush Limbaugh. While a news source, I'd hardly call him unbiased - therefore, objective.
     
  13. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    What in the world are you babbling about? I don't listen to Rush. Any other comments?
     
  14. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    Your links for anti-Semitic sites are laughable. And what about the truth that all Israeli's think all of Lebanon should be killed. Where's the link to that, again? What you type here is nowhere close to facts. You continuously ignore that the UN recognizes the State of Israel, and that since inception your arab brothers have attacked the State, lost miserably, and continue to bitch and whine. There is a price to pay for losing wars. It's called losing lands. The objective truth is that Israel should be much larger than it is. They could have marched into Beirut a long time ago and conquered it. The same is true of all the wars they fought. Each time they chose to give back land. Even now they are still considering giving the arabs a state of their own. I don't know when they will finally learn. And I could post links all day from real news sources, but it wouldn't change your mind because you are so bias.
     
  15. Shambhala Peace

    Shambhala Peace Senior Member

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    I suggest you look in the mirror when you talk about babbling.

    You have parroted everything he's been saying the past two weeks.
     
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    questing400 Senior Member

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    The fact remains I don't listen to him. Nor do I listen to anyone on the radio. Or television. So what does it matter that he's saying what I'm saying?
     
  17. Shambhala Peace

    Shambhala Peace Senior Member

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    I figured you would probably debate my observation, so I will point out one thing you said that sounded exactly like Rush.

    Rush says: "You have to attack. If you're going to have a war on terror, there are terrorists all over the place, you have to hit them where they reside, and from where they are attacking our forces in Iraq. If what they're doing now, if what Hezbollah... I keep saying Hezbollah and Hamas. It's all Iran, folks. If what Iran is doing does not result in a big blow to these people in Lebanon and in the Palestinian areas, they are going to be emboldened. In fact, Ralph Peters has a piece today saying he's a little worried because the Israelis are not fighting this as they've fought other times before."

    If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, acts like a duck...
    Regardless of what you say.
     
  18. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    You're being pretty childish. I serioulsy do not listen to Rush at all. Why would I lie? And did it even occur to you that many people think the same things? And add to that the fact that it's the truth. You figure it out. And what about the fact that DQ, Stevens, and you all sound the same? Are you all getting your stuff from the same source? And either way, why the hell does this matter? We are trying to debate ideas. There are very few original ideas left in the world. Ease up with these Rush comparisons. They're really quite pointless.
     
  19. Shambhala Peace

    Shambhala Peace Senior Member

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    Actually, I'm not being childish.

    I am backing my statements up.

    You are just spouting neo-con rhetoric you heard from some place (perhaps not Limbaugh), and you're just mad I called you on it.

    I don't sound like the DQ, Stevens, etc. I have already stated my position regarding the whole matter.
     
  20. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    How are you backing up your statements when it is a fact that I don't listen to him or other commentators? That is a fact. What you're doing is constructing the truth from the information you have. I called it childish because you are in effect calling me a liar. And please don't label me or my statements. That's just as childish. You have no idea who I am and what I believe. You're just getting a glimpse and suddenly you are an expert? Grow up.
     
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