Psychedelic Bump VI

Why take 3 hits of LSD, if one hit makes you trip just as well. Oh wait. It doesn't. That's why you take 3 hits.

50mg 2c-e =/= 18mg 2c-e

Whole different adventure. That's why you take it.

Do you "need" to go to 18mg?

Short lasting dissociatives like ketamine and MXE don't have the same kind of lingering effects on your brain as serotonergic psychedelics, you can safely take them several times a week. You may just encounter some tolerance if you binge on it every day, but you certainly don't need to space out your MXEing by a week. I mean if we're gonna make the "but it's a research chemical!" argument, then you shouldn't be doing MXE period, you shouldn't be doing drugs, and you should be going to church every sunday, but while we're all adults here doing drugs, you'll be fine doing MXE 2-3 times a week.

Dissociatives are really different from classic psychedelics, the body sensations can be very strange and feel alien/synthetic/wrong, but just remember it's only anaesthesia. You shouldn't be focusing on your body on a dissociative anyways, you should lie down in darkness and listen to music; the trip is -all- in the head, your body is not invited

 

Yeah, I'm going to wait until I feel better. I won't be able to enjoy it if I know I might wake up feeling worse.

 

i guess i set myself right up for that one. but the difference is.. i don't want to take 50 mg 2ce, but i do sometimes want to take 18 mg or 3 hits of L.


today was the day i planned to take mescaline for the first time, but the weather is real shitty, and i'm coming down with a cold. guess it'll have to wait for a few more weeks. spring will really be blooming by then :sunny:

 

Yeah it's scary how deep into your own hell you can go when something like that happens. It's funny you mentioned The Sopranos. lol I had been watching episode after episode of The Sopranos prior to the 2ce trip, and there was a recurring delusion during the trip that I was actually part of the Soparanos' world and that I was gonna get "wacked" because of the recent mistakes I'd made in my life. lol For a while, during the trip, I even thought I had actually murdered someone.

 

My reply to you pork is that it seems that everyone who takes higher doses of 2c-e finds them much better than lower doses, and that includes a drop in the body load, which seems to be your worry. The weather here is shitty as well, raining all day, cold.

 

^^i know, i know...i just don't buy it. and my issue isn't really with the body load, it's with the sick feeling i'm left with after. i've gotten some weird longish term after effects from 2ce i think, and i'd rather not make it worse by taking super high doses. i don't deny that it's a more intense enjoyable trip, or even that the body load on the trip could decrease, but it's just not something i'm interested in doing.

 

Man that sounded like a very intense time!! ..the pigs are always trying to hassle people where i live too
and LOL @ at the cop just letting you guys go after hotboxing your car!

 

It's not something you should do if you don't want to do it, but I REALLY hope you want to do it someday

 

Yes. Wait until you feel as healthy as a spry spring chicken, wait for the best weather conditions possible, be in a peaceful, calm state of mind, and be in nature for mescaline. It's the greatest connection to Mother Earth I've ever experienced, even moreso than shrooms. You'll thank yourself for setting up the perfect set in which to trip on mescaline. Is it acetate or HCl or fumarate or citrate or...?

That's some hilarious shit, and thank you for mentioning the depths of hell we self-perpetuate when miserable, lol. Your Sopranos delusion is just like my aliens stole my parents! delusion, or a couple of others even more bizarre, lol!

 

^^^it's acetate + other alkaloids from San Pedro

 

I think you have to remember that the everyone, as in what Mr Writer regards as everyone, is not everyone. We're talking here about people who are so enthusiastic about drugs that they join and post to an online forum. Now what that infers in the responses that are given I'm not sure, but I can only predict that people who are most passionate for psychedelics/drugs will be the ones posting these posts.

I much the same way with any area of interest on the internet, a conspiracy theory video on youtube will have the top comment from the people who are in support of it.

I'm not saying anything about low/high dose 2c-e here because I myself have only experienced upto 20mg and enjoyed it. But I would certainly be reluctant to take more than twice as much as that. And before anyone says taking twice as much doesn't mean it's going to twice as good/bad/anything I don't care it's still more than twice the amount I'm happy with.

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And this seems to be badly worded towards Writer but it's not how it sounds, I think you guys can infer what I'm saying here. In no way was it a slight or anything judgmental about Writers perception, Writer. I <3 you man

 

I know you don't wanna hear it, but 50-60 or more milligrams of 2ce is like a totally different experience than 20mg of 2ce. It almost feels like a completely different/better drug, and it will take you to some amazing places. I basically pioneered high doses of 2ce on this forum, and everyone who has tried 50mg or more has appreciated the fuck out of it. I don't mean it in a negative or disrespectful way, but you and pork both need to man up and try higher doses, because it really is amazing.

 

Not only the higher dose, but my recommended setting for such a trip. Lying down in bed + music + darkness. It makes a helluva difference than moving around or concentrating on something the whole time. Just relax and let go.

 

It's got a lot to do as well with the fact that because of my previous experiences with drugs I don't want to dose alone. Hence dosing with friends you don't want too much of an intense experience as was mentioned with miprocin before with me. Horses for courses man. Though I really do appreciate that 2c-e will be totally different at those higher doses. Maybe one day man.

 

Dude, miprocin and 2ce are on totally opposite ends of the spectrum. Still, whether it's miprocin or 2ce, low doses are better suited for group trips and high doses are better suited for solo trips. There is no doubt in my mind that you would appreciate a high dose of 2ce, given the setting I have always recommended; 2ce + music + relaxation/comfort. PLEASE do it one day.

 

Aha, the d-limonene/hydrated lime/white vinegar/purified H2O extraction. SWIM, lol, is extracting Plant Food from Peruvian Torch (the xylene/hydrochloric acid/lye/purified H2O method for making the HCl salt). Something seems strange about the acetate apparently, though. I've read that though it's molecularly lighter than the HCl which should make it weaker than the HCl, some people experience the acetate as being the stronger form of the "easy" extractions.

 

lol, you, me, GB, GM, p0ly, and pr0ne420 should all have a smoke-out dood! I took 50mg of t2 about four or five ago after listening to BRMC after that online chat about that stuff, I feel fantastic!!! It's so much better to double the dose, ALWAYS!!! I also ate 235mg Molly, 35mg 2ce, 45mg 2cb, 800mg piracetam, 1200mg gabapentin, and an energy drink + a 5 Hour Energy shot I've had a wonderful weekend, The Brian Jonestown Massacre album 'Give It Back' on sikes is such a powerful, emblamatic, psychological mindfuck of epic scale!!! Awesomeness incarnate!

 

Dude, dude dude,

 

i really don't think you were the first one to think of this:mickey:

i totally get what you mean man. everyone here is a bunch of psychonauts. so even though i'm on HF, and i like to trip, maybe i don't like to trip as hard as everyone taking 50 mg 2ce. or MAYBE i trip just as hard from 20 mg as TNS trips from 50 mg.
TNS, you say you barely felt 15 mg, where for me that is a significant trip, a ++ at least.

when 15 and 20 mg has such a huge difference, i can't imagine and i have no desire to experience 50 fucking milligrams. i would be worried for my safety as well at a dose like that.

 

Of course I wasn't the first one to lie down in bed while tripping on high doses of 2ce, but I do recommend it. It's one of the most amazing experiences ever.

Even if that doesn't make you wanna dose 50-60mg, or more, it should at least make you wanna dose higher than you have. Go for at least 35mg man. I mean......really.