Psychedelic Bump VIII

what do you mean its superfluous p0ly? all psyches are the same, doesn't matter where you start?

 

So apparently because I use psychedelics I am a worthless druggie that will never amount to nothing, never keep a job or have anything nice, and I will end up homeless and on the streets.

This all stemmed from me telling.my mom about my DMT trip and my uncle eavesdropping in then proceeding to throw judgement down on me because he is perfect in every way and everyone should be like him and think like him.

I have been here taking care of my dying grandfather, HIS FATHER, for 8 months now because HE DID NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH IT. I have been here every fucking day watching a family member suffer and slowly die. My drug usage has not effected my 'job' at all.

My mom and my uncle have been here with me, not lifting a finger to help might I add, just so they can be here when he dies. Not be by his side or any of that just to be here for when *I* walk in and he has finally passed. This whole time they have been treating me like complete and utter shit. If I am 10min late, take a nap, or in the bathroom too long they are throwing threats and insults at me like there is no tmw.

Yes, they pay me 300 a week. I sit here 9 hours a day, 5 days a week. The majority of that is spent sitting and staring at the floor. If they were to hire a sitter they would be paying them at least 18 bux an hr and they would not sit here and take all their bullshit.

I done told them that once my grandfather dies and my mom passes I am moving to Canada and my uncle can deal with the REAL druggies in my family, my sister a cokehead needle user and my brother an opiate addict. Because once my mom passes all her businesses and the such that was willed to her from my gpaw will be split between my uncle and my siblings and I, my.uncle and i having the most authority. I am not dealing with his stupid holier than thou BULLSHIT!!!

Sorry for the huge rant but I had to get this off my chest before I lose my shit and stab him.

 

i meant the planning seems superfluous to me. i meant it's not required in my opinion

 

One can ease the anxiety of a newcomer to psychedelics by strategically positioning the easier psychedelics at the beginning of their investigations! I wouldn't want to scare someone away from MDMA because I gave them DPT their first time ever. I'd rather prepare someone for DPT by giving them MDMA and explaining the differences . . . Remember not everyone is as experienced as us It's like making love for the first time, you don't go ramming it up her butt with no lube right from the get go, gotta start with foreplay :sifone:

 

Now they are making me wanna commit suicide with sad as fuck country and funeral songs. I don't want my funeral to be all weepy and depressing. I want a viking's funeral.

 

Bump for ~5-8 mgs nasal 2cp and a bit of Changa at the peak over the weekend. Still do not enjoy that 2cp drug but the Changa added a pretty cool element to the body high. I tripped out when I came home to lurk on HF and Psychedelic Bump VII was missing.

I recently saw a thread where someone was asking about LSD and you generalized your 2ci experiences to LSD...

So I think you definitely should get some 2ce and probably a tryptamine like DPT or 4 aco dmt while you're at it, so you can see the wide range of effects hallucinogens can produce, by simple changes in the molecular structure that effect receptor sites differently.

As far as the effects of 2ce vs. 2ci go, I'd say within the ranges recommended by Erowid and Pikhal, 2ce is a vastly more hallucinogenic and 'deeper' entheogenic experience. I know you like mathematics so I think you'll appreciate the 2ce experience a lot, the closed eye imagery is much more defined and symmetrical than 2ci and the Open eye imagery is as well, it produces many grid patterns over the ground and various objects, sometimes referred to as "Persian carpet" visuals. 2ce has more significant time dilation and feels more relaxed than 2ci, almost sedating in a way. I think 2ci is superior as a functional psychedelic, I've had a pretty difficult time playing and enjoying guitar, dancing, and sex on 2ce alone as opposed to 2ci where I absolutely love that type of stuff. But you'll most likely get some pretty spectacular sensory effects from 2ce no doubt and feel how much more potent is compared to 2ci at relative dosages.

I know you have taken some high dose 2ci and it seems with the exception of 2cc and 2cd pretty much all these 2cx compounds have the capability to produce pretty powerful experiences over the ~35 mgs mark. But I think (and hope) this experience will help you watch to make broad generalizations from one psychedelic compound to another psychedelic compound.

 

That sucks. You can't really be mad at him for not understanding your use of psychedelics though. Just feel sorry for him. He's an asshole for everything else though.

How does your mom feel about your psychedelic use? I don't know your mom, but have you considered a trip for her? It may do some good for her mental/emotional state.

 

I don't even wanna try 2cp anymore. It sounded awesome at first, like a long acting 2ce but now it just seems like a whole lotta meh. That makes three chemicals I need to flush.

@TNS - she is curious about psychedelics but she would never trip again. She tripped on mushroom tea with my dad when she was younger. She doesn't like tripping or the high from weed.

 

I go back and forth between wanting to try it. Sometimes it sounds awesome and sometimes it sounds like, as you put it it, a whole lotta meh.

That being said, if I had some 2cp in front of me right now, I'd eat 20-30mg or so.

 

I'm going to plug my remaining ~25 mgs of 2cp most likely in combo with something else I'm thinking.

 

For some reason, based on what I know of each, I'm thinking aMT would go nicely with 2cp.

 

The durations seem like they would sync up nicely, I've been somewhat curious to try some aMT for awhile now, but it's schedule 1 in the U.S. and I'm not in the know how to get around that. Cosmoknot saying he needs 100 mgs of it to combine with stuff doesn't exactly make it seem all that worth it to me but it seems ~30 mgs is the sweet spot for many.

 

Cillian Murphy is flippin HAWT!!

aMT is somethin that's been in my freezer for a while that I have yet to try. The duration has kept me at bay bc I don't want to get sick off it and be sick for that many hours.

 

HAHAH!

P0ly here is the consequences of not making a list...

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i gave one girl some 2c-i as her first psychedelic and it completely put her off the idea of psys big time!! she only did like 20-25mg. fuck a list just make sure they take good drugs at reasonable doses.

 

Yeah cuz 2ci sucks balls...

 

i know it does yet i've heard people on here class it as a beginner psychedelic and something good to start your psychedelic career with i say no to be honest (even though i did give it to her). that's why i said good drugs at good doses.

 

I've turned a gf onto psys with mushrooms, I offered her E after that but she didn't do it and I never did any other psychs with her.

and then another girl I dated with 2 fire ecstasy Pills. I think her 2nd trip was 2ci and then ketamine (k hole dose) She enjoyed the ecstasy and 2ci, not so much the ketamine. She said she was stuck in the "post office of doom"

 

I like 2ci a lot, it's not something I'll go out of my way to get but I was actually caught off guard at how powerful it was the first time I tried it to be honest.

 

I think those ppl haven't ever done 'good drugs' and have limited experience to base their opinion on. There was a thread once about this, I suggested mushrooms because that was my first. But of course there was someone out there to challenge that idea saying shrooms were too scary. I say to each their own and instead of trying to find 'the perfect' introduction psy take the time and teach the person that every chemical and every substance will be different that way if they don't like what YOU think is right they will feel confident to try again with something else.