Psychedelic Bump XIV

That makes sense.

Maybe peruvian torch also has more of some of the more active non mescaline alkaloids, as part of the different profile? Maybe there's some that are as active, or nearly as active, things that are more psychedelic than we would generally give the other alkaloids credit for being? Just an idea, I've never taken either so I can't really say lots, but given that I've never really heard anyone complain of a PT being weak, but I've never seen anything scientific say anything OTHER than that it's got about as much mescaline as your tap water, it would make sense I think.

 

Bump for psybump-people love! I've missed you guys! <3

 

Love you too.

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I'm ordering some aces and I can't decide if I want to add 10mg 25i-NBOMe to my order or get 250mg 4-HO-MiPT in a couple months from a different source.
I just feel like it'll be a waste to get all of them because I don't trip that often as it is.

What would you do?

 

Tough one, since I have no experience with 25i I would go with the 4-HO-MiPT, I love that stuff!

 

I haven't read any in depth info on the comparative alkaloids so I'm not sure what Peruvian Torch contains. From what I have briefly read on subjective experience is that Peruvian Torch is more similar to isolated mescaline than San Pedro or Peyote is. So I think it's possible that Peruvian Torch has less active non mescaline alkaloids than either of those.

A comparison for me is I find Changa (Dmt + Maoi) slightly more chill than DMT freebase at the same dose levels.

 

*nevermind I found my answer.

 

A good friend of mine just recieved 86% pure mdma crystals from germany and I'm gonna get to taste it. I think the closest to mdma I've had was white G-spot ladies. I think the most of those i ever took was 3 but that was some 4 years ago... I'm thinking of starying out with 200mg of the crystals so roughly 172 mg of MDMA. I think this should be good for me. I will also be dosing with my girlfriend. She only done "X" once and i'm pretty sure it was a piperzine as she said it was shaped like a dog bone #rollingmyeyes# Anyways, I was thinking half as much as i do so about 100mg of crystal. What would you recommend her first time dose be?

 

500mg of aces on the way fiiiinally!

 

I think alot of the '86% MDMA' people purport these days is actually MBDB or MDEA.

If you're used to quality ecstasy it's most likely going to be more relaxing and sort of lethargic feeling. I had some molly called 'the sand' last year that was most likely MDEA and 2 quality ecstasy pills felt like more than 200 mgs of 'the sand' but that one was pretty stoning and also made me slightly nauseous. If it is in fact MDMA I'm not sure why you would consider buying such an impure batch, and I'd have no recommendations on dose so your formula sounds good enough.

 

I'm so up for dosing some 4-aco this weekend!!

 

Who enjoys 2C-I alot? I am thinking of ordering some but have heard mixed reports from people who have tried it. When i look through the threads here on teh forums it is the same, some people think it isnt worth it some like it alot.

 

It's hit or miss for me. Some trips I've really enjoyed it and I find the music enhancement on it pretty intense, I find the trip fairly analytical, and somewhat unique in it's visual qualities, although it's not always that overtly visual. It's also the best bathroom mirror psychedelic imo :rofl: My complaints about it would be that it lacks the warmth at times that I find present in like 2cb and 2ce. It feels extremely artificial at times, and slightly detaching, almost like being on a small dose of a disassociative. It's pretty stimulating too but that doesn't bother me so much and knowing some of your past drug explorations I wouldn't think it'd bother you.

Besides Salvia, it plays well with others too.

 

OH GEEZ, mxe and phenzapam are in the bath salt market now :coffee:

 

You should go for 2c-c or 2c-p. Not that I've tried any of the three but I think those would be more impressive.
and 25i-NBOMe.

 

Im not too sure about 25i-NBOMe, i need to do more research on it before purchasing. I am interested in 2C-C and to a lesser extent (due to the fact i would want to do some research on it), because i have heard good experiences from friends about them.

 

2cc is really chill but it requires about double the dose as most the other 2cx. I prefer 2ci to 2cp, I find 2cp a slower, lingering, largely uninspired version of a 2ce trip.

 

Well 25i sounds amazing
I was very close to buying some yesterday. There are some amazing reviews out there.

 

I want to try some 25i nbome very much as well.

 

that's pretty fucked, no? i mean, weren't bath salts mostly mdpv / mephedrone mixes? so largely stimulant? now they are a dissociative and/or a benzo? makes no sense. they should at least call them bath sugar or something

god damnit, GB! i'm never gonna try that 2cp. i've had it for so long...

i agree, it sounds pretty amazing. i'm sorta sketched about having to by-pass 1st pass metabolism. and can't really figure out if it's gonna be active sublingually without being complexed with HPBC or whatever it is...
someone i know said he's getting a gram, so i'll have the chance to try some if i want. that is a shitload afterall! hopefully it's the HCl, as it should be water soluble, and therefore get around the problem of complexing.

try that one, hahaha04 (for at least mine and popularity's curiosity), but if you do get that one, be fucking careful with it! don't go eyeballing the shit, or weighing it with a shitty scale! i'm serious people. don't fuck it up. :sunny:

 

Yah that's pretty fucked, I don't know how widespread it will get, hopefully it's mostly through just a minority of online vendors. I think it's mxe mixed with lidocaine and I don't know what's in the phenzepam mix.

Can you explain what this HPBC stuff is and why it's only active when mixed/complexed with it?