Psychedelic Bump XIV

Hey Writer, have fun! That range will be my next exploration of 4 aces. So far have gone to ~42 and it's pretty interesting in that area.
Any special entertainment plans since I'm assuming you'll be staying in?

 

55 Will be awesome. 45-50 mg is my sweet spot. I also really enjoy 60+ mg doses when the time is right.

 

Bah! Minor for Cannucks n' Limies, certainly quite major for Yanks, & as far as I know, NF stopped vending to anyone & PC, like GR, works their site intermittently; however, PC works in tandem with BCD now & as such should rise onto the mantle with CRC (pricewise too).

 

Really intense trip it sounds like, I don't really understand what you are saying in the last part about it being either not visual or so visual you couldn't see, can you elaborate on that a bit more?

 

Nah, it wasn't MollZ n' mexy, it was mdai & mexy rigged up intravenous at insane doses just like the 2ce dipwads, the t7/t7 & MollZ ninnies, & that limbless bdf jacko; hell my 2ci/4 aces stunt coulda lumped meeeee in there years back now...oy vey.

Now you wanna show the ultimate, though a tad risky, trypt exp. to volupta?
•110mg amt oral, 15-25 smoked
•25mg foxy oral, 20 smoked
•25mg 5-meo-dmt smoked
•75mg deemster smoked

Bomb the oral all @ once, then promptly smoke that cocktail at once & the maoi effects of foxy n' amt extend & potentate the 5-meo/dmt experiences, plus their own selves, until the others come on all together, extending the 5-meo/dmt highs for ridiculoisly; that's where weak maoi's come quite in handy, like t2.
They're weak so I am proof of their relative safety in potentiating sikes, though I would still keep all amps outta the equation, piperazines, barbiturates, & I think stuff like diphenhydramine or Donnatal too.
But those four trypts work amazingly together--& that combo gets ya super fuckin' aroused

EDIT: you too givin' ganj a hardtime 'bout his smack? Freedom of choice brother, plus, opies are no stranger to you (pod tea, oxys, dillies, poppyseed washes, Norcos, ad al) additionally loads of todays smack IS crushed n' ground Dilaudid, Demerol, Roxicet IR, & Opana...sometimes even fentanyl, & a few rarer, really potent opies (all of which, regardless of filler, is often a purer & stronger high.
Ganj, enjoy the shit outta ur smack dude!

 

have you ever tried 2cb + LSD, writer? i'm confused cuz you said how they multiply in every way, but also said that you planned to try it coming up in Jan. with your girl.

i might write a more detailed summary at some point, when i'm not so brain-fried. i have some brief comments on page 40 if you didn't see them. (ok, i guess i did it now...see below)

first off, i don't think the 2cb added to much to the experience. like how you've put it before is that 2cb is like "LSD-light." so pretty much everything in a 2cb trip is already present in LSD, except a residual headache and stomach knots, however mild they are.
the LSD i have is very strong IMO, so maybe it just swamped out the 2cb. so as far as dosage tweaking, i might try to make the 2cb trip the majority of the experience (by taking a higher dose), and take a smaller dose of L to enhance it a little bit (like half of the microdot i took, if it was possible to cut it accurately, or maybe a couple of those weak red ganeshas you had).

i was super freezing inside, just like on my last acid dose. this LSD seems to mess with my body temp just as bad as 2cb and 2ce, which seem to have that effect on you as well, writer. so the 2cb might have made that even more extreme. then i went outside...and it's officially winter. it was cold to the point of me shivering, but walking quickly kept me warm enough.

i didn't smoke any weed all day until about an hour and a half after dosing. i took one bong hit and got insanely high and giddy. but i also think it contributed to some paranoid thoughts i had during my walk.

while i walked to the park, i had the sorta normal feeling that everyone must know i'm on drugs. felt like i was walking to fast, like it looked like i was running from something. every car that passed looked menacing. but i remained calm and listened to my headphones. i had a tight winter hat on, and my hoody up, it felt like i was...well wrapped up real tight and comfy.

the sun was coming down and was super bright and looked really close. i was looking at it through trees and sorta got temporary blindness. i also wasn't wearing my glasses, and i was also tripping, so it was hard to tell, what was exactly interfering with my vision, but i almost couldn't see! it was like my vision went from 20/40(?) - not perfect, but not bad, my prescription is pretty weak - to 20/100(?). my vision was very blurry and it was like i might white out or something. but i kept walking, and scurried into the park.

again, the sun was coming down, giving everything an orange glow on one side of me, and a more intense, semi-blinding light on the other. i went off the path towards the light orange glow. it was like i was on another planet. like the seasons changing is so drastic, that i can't step out of my apt. one day, and have it be a totally different environment on another. patterns were everywhere. but it wasn't really visuals, it was nature. there was this tree with spike-ball seeds, arranged in a fractal pattern waiting to spread the plant's DNA. there were branches of all geometries, each one a perfect chaos that allows the tree to thrive, instructed by its DNA and therefore some type of "god" IMO.

there were a few spots that had a light dusting of snow. i picked up a single leaf that had a layer of snow on it. i could see the fractal patters of the leaf structure with such clarity. i could see a brown decomposition on it that was taking over, also in a fractal pattern. then was the layer of tiny, fractal, ice structures on top of it. i held it up to the sun and took mental pictures of the scene. i breathed on the snow to make it melt. awesome!

time to keep moving. now i find myself in a familiar place in the park. an area with benches and lots of flower bushes. the picture isn't current.

i've had my strongest visuals ever here, on 19 mg 2ce during the spring. all the colors mixed together like wet paint and covered my whole field of view. anyways, now i was not having such visuals that i seem to get from 2ce and -b, like i was getting before when i was "going blind." it was all about LSD's enhancing effect. even though my vision was slightly blurry without my glasses, i could see all kinds of birds. a couple blue jays, and like 6 or 8 cardinals. i had a lot of fun watching and following them. i was sorta chasing them from bush to bush by walking in their direction and watching where they go next. there were lots of these tiny brown and white birds, that starting popping outta nowhere (grass where i couldn't see), and it was like bits of my visual field was flying away.

now up to the water, where i had a magical moment with my fiance on our last trip in october.
*just got a bloody nose again!* air is dry as fuck, and my bong doesn't help.

anyways, i went i went right up to the fence to get as close to the water as i could. i closed my eyes and listened to the tiny waves lapping against the concrete shore. i have quite a mini-meditation setting there. i cleared my mind of anything, and just felt my awareness. the proximity to the water felt really nice. after awhile, i kept walking. through a tiny patch of trees, and across the road. there was a car with a bunch of people getting out. made me nervous (recall the paranoia i mentioned). i kept going into the woods. they followed me. they had dogs. it was getting dark. i absolutely hated the feeling of them following me. so i stopped and stared at the city way in the distance. it wasn't this dark.



the people and (tiny, friendly) dogs passed by, with a hello from each side. after a couple seconds i took an alternate path, but now sorta following them. i'd rather make them nervous. then i pass a 60 or 70 year old lady, nearly trip myself trying to give her ample space and not make her nervous. i had a laugh inside my head about how nervous i was, but how confident this frail old woman was.

i continued my walk, down this hill
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/album.php?albumid=8138&pictureid=66328
and up these steps

again, not current, but you get the idea.

then i walked through "engagement point" (where i proposed). at that exact moment this song came on
http://grooveshark.com/s/Evil/3gi0KU?src=5
my fiance and i had been singing it earlier that day. it also happens to be one of the two songs that played on my salvia breakthrough, and still gives me the heebie-jeebies because of it. in any case, music seemed to be making connections, making things come full circle. at the end of my walk, Built to Spill came on my headphones, and that's the band that i was raving about right after i hit my bong and started to trip pretty hard, before i left for my walk.

i got home, my fiance was at the store. i had gotten quite cold on this walk, and was very mildly worried that i might freeze. it was one of the only trips where i didn't feel safe and at home at the park. other than maybe my early trips on 2ce where i went in there at like 2 AM. another component to that paranoia. so it was COLD. my face was chapped and snotty. i went in the bathroom to wash it, rinse my mouth with water. when i opened my eyes there was blood all over my white sink, and it sorta looked like i spit a mouthful of it out! (it was from my nose, or it leaked down into my mouth like when you hock a loogie) seeing this was VERY ALARMING as you might imagine. i was like "oh shit oh fuck oh man." i grabbed a washcloth, bloody water was getting everywhere. i pinched off my nose and told myself to calm down. i used to get bloody noses all the time, it's probably no big deal. but then i asked myself, "do you feel alright, are you lightheaded or anything?..." I DON'T KNOW, I'M FUCKING TRIPIPNG! look into the mirror. my face is crooked. my eyes don't line up. my nose is crooked (i think it is a little bit in real life, but it looks crazy when i'm faced). there's still blood on the wall. i think i'm ok. i hope i'm ok. i clean up the mess and wish for sobriety and normalcy.

even though i had decided it wasn't a big deal - it scared the fuck outta me. i feared for my life for a couple seconds at least, and it sorta registered in my brain that tripping was NOT worth it. i realize it was a freak thing, but that's what i thought at the time.

it was almost 7:00 now, less than 5 hours after dosing. so i'd only been tripping for about 4 hours. my trip wasn't over...but in a way it sorta was. i was past the peak, and i had just scared myself half-way straight. the rest of the night i just lounged around on the computer with music.
my fiance made me a soft shell taco.
i pet my cat.
got into bed before midnight and watched some tv. had a restless stomach that wouldn't let me get comfortable. i got outta bed, back on the computer for a little, and fell asleep probably before 1 AM. my nose did NOT feel normal until this morning.

that was maybe more than you asked for, writer. a lot of details about what i did, rather than the effects of 2cb + LSD specifically, but that's the best i can do in relating them to you.

i don't think i'll mix LSD with 2cb again, or with 2ce. seems just as good on it's own, and cleaner. i'd still consider mixing -b and -e though. or other combos with LSD. i'm starting to think that 2cx isn't for me anymore. feels too harsh on my body, doesn't feel healthy.

well i touched on that above, but i'll answer your question separately. on acid for the most part, i tend to not get that intense of open eye visuals (morphing and bending). i tend to just see things with increased detail. colors are more intense, tiny details are more sharp. this view of the world was making me so elated yesterday, that i felt like jumping up and down and screaming with joy. i walked joyfully up a hill and envisioned myself bursting at the chest with "arms" of love spreading out.

so the visuals are distorting, they are just beautiful detail of the natural scene in front of me. but then there are birds flying outta the grass that give that weird effect of my visual field moving unexpectedly. there are birds flying through the sky, but they look like a single unit. the look like a part of the blue sky that they glide through, on an apparent pre-destined path, carved out in the solid background of the sky.

it's as if i have no visuals, cuz things are moving around and breathing. but i have visuals over my whole field of view because everything is so beautifully intricate and radiating magic.

 

OH! I missed that you, Pork, took L and B. It's an interesting trip, no? I love it! It reminded me of mushrooms a little. Still my second favorite combo between B+E and MDMA+B. You def should have done more B.

Next time give 4-HO-MiPT + LSD a shot. It's much less intense than B and L. The visuals that the Miprocin creates with the LSD are so pretty (vibrant, melty, with the meltiness swirling into geometric patterns, for me anyway) plus the tryptamine warmth (anyone else get that?) kinda reminds me of the lovely warm feeling opiates give. It makes you feel so comfy and homey, so soothing, like all your cares just melt away along with everything around you hehe. I think it would be next to impossible to have a bad trip on that combo. It would be perfect for this time of year while it's cold out. <3 Especially if it were snowing outside. Ahh, that sounds amazing. I wish It snowed here.

 

Definitely a break through state. I discovered a lot about the universe. I believe in god now. I also believe that I am god and god is me, and that I am every person in the world. I came to a point where I knew beyond any shadow of a doubt that these things are true, and even though leaving that break through state meant losing that absolute knowledge of the truth, but I've decided to take from it these beliefs and stick to them. I'm gonna try to write a report eventually, but it's going to take a lot of really hard thinking to organize the truths that I've come to. I don't have any desire to use any drugs other than weed ever again. That may change in the future, but for now I'm satisfied with it. I never want to have to deal with the process of coming back into reality like I had to. That was by far the scariest part of the trip. After about 14 hours the trip had mostly stopped but reality was still out of grasp and there were a lot of really difficult mental processes I had to go through to begin to grasp reality again.

 

so what's your favorite? -e + -b, or nexusflip? i probably did need more -b to make it a 'real' combo with full effects from both. i've never gotten too grand of effects from 2cb with any less than 30 mg, but you know me...i'm extra cautious. so maybe i would try this again with closer to 30 mg of 2cb, but i still feel like it would just put a harsher spin to my lsd trip, and give me a body load, even if it is just a mild one, part of why lsd is so great is because it's body load is incredibly mild. so instead of a hit of acid + 26 mg 2cb, i'd rather just do a hit of acid...or two.

i didn't think this combo was overly intense. it was a bit intense, but in a satisfactory way. (the post above this one sounds INTENSE!)

i've sorta planned that when i eat my 25 mg of possibly degraded or weak miprocin, that i'll dose a hit of acid later on if it doesn't impress me by itself. what was your dose of miprocin on that combo??

i always thought 2ce went great with big chunky snowflakes. you've probably heard me say that before.

 

i'm gonna go out on a limb and say...NO! i bet writer doesn't give that to his girlfriend. jesus dude, enough with the crazy drug combos already. do whatever you want, but recommending this shit to others is a whole nother thing.

let's just list off half of all the drugs we have at once time, and COMBINE 'EM! how about 20 mg each of 2cb, 2ce and 2cp all in one capsule shoved up my butt...at the same time as smoking some DMT and cannabis mix...at the same time as dissolving 4 hits of L on my tongue. sounds hella trippy doodz!!

if you've noticed ganja's history with drugs, it sorta seems like he has had issues with addiction. and when he says how he's gonna do it just once, like a million other addicts once said, how are you gonna tell him to enjoy?!?!! you give the worst advice ever dude.

 

i would not recommend anyone 25mg of 5-meo-dmt sober!!? you wuuut...

 

B + E is my favorite because It gave me effects that are like those of DMT in the way that they are just incomparable to anything else. Not anything else that I have done anyway.

If you do choose to try the B + L combo again, 30mg's sounds good.

My Miprocin + L trip, I took about 45 mg's of Miprocin. 35mg's were taken orally. There were 10mg's left in the bag after dosing everyone so I snorted it shortly after my initial dose.

 

i think i'm going to do mushrooms on new years eve with a close friend. i've never done them before, and he is a lightweight for any drugs he's tried. any dose suggestions? I was thinking 2 grams each, or would that be really weak?

 

That'll most likely be weak but also a good introduction dose if your friend is a lightweight.

 

2.1 grams was a perfect first mushroom dose for me. I got strong euphoria and mild visuals, and I was pretty inexperienced with psychedelics at the time I thought it was a really good introduction.

But mushrooms are weird with potency.. sometimes 2g is way more than enough and sometimes it is really weak. You can always bump it up with some cannabis if you are feeling let down.

 

Cosmo your way off base as usual and why are you even talking about me?

 

My first time with shrooms was my first time doing anything besides weed. I ate about 1.75 gs and got strong euphoria and some beautiful visuals. It was actually a pretty strong but perfect intro to psychedelics. I guess they must have been pretty good shrooms

 

1) i do have a history of those. i had a piece of my liver removed when i was 2. no problems since. i have low blood pressure and get lightheaded sorta often. i get headaches from tripping which is a sign of mild dehydration. i'd say we all have compulsions, depression, and anxiety to some extent, and i sometimes wonder if my experimentation with serotonergics have made me a bit more moody. and i've been in the hospital a few times. not exactly sure why you mentioned any of that. i suppose none of those things are ideal, but we are all human...
2) i can agree it might have just been too low of a dose of 2cb. i do think i got a glimpse of what 2cb added, but the L was stronger. maybe i'd try again with closer to 30 mg, but i almost don't see the point. i'd rather try 3 stars (maybe). or try -e + -b before i give up on PEAs all together..
3) my tolerance and frequency of use are both pretty low. 40-45 mg 2cb is the most i've taken of it alone. 30-37 mg gives me a good trip. so i figure that much or a little less for a combo.
4) yeah, i don't see myself ever taking combos as far as you. seems very hedonistic, and i don't see how cocktails like those could offer so much more, without a huge added body load.
5) i bet it is....but not something i care to try. this is the psychedelic bump thread. there's a sub forum for opiates if you wanna tell people to do heroin. i'm all about freedom of choice, but heroin is different that psychedelics IMO.

 

lol @ 25 mgs 5-meo-DMT for a starter dose. 22mgs vaped was my last dose - the one that made me feel I'm unable to do it ever again. The one with a 1 hour blackout and another hour of ranting weird shit that I don't recall and my husband ain't talking.

And 75 mgs N,N, DMT? Also crazy if done correctly. 65-70 mgs was an insane blackout for me that turned into a panic attack with my husband holding me and my cats looking like living self-transforming machine elf versions of the most extreme of Louis Wain's paintings WHILE I saw all kinds of animals, mostly large cats like Panthers, lunging out of the walls and air at me.

What are you trying to recommend cosmo?

 

I can't believe this. I waited forever on that one certain reliable vendor who disappeared and never received my 4-aces.
I went thru some more trouble and waited forever on a different source and got scammed. This past week I sent in an order for 500mg and received tracking for it today, which is the day that one vendor decides to tell me they're back and will replace my order.

Originally I ordered 500mg from them back in May but they are willing to compensate by giving me 1000mg of the aces or any product I would like. And they have a huge list. I love 4-AcO and would love to have a gram, but I already have 500 on the way. I'm thinking maybe a gram of 2c-e though since it's about to go bye bye. ANy suggestions?

Thinking about 4-HO-MET or maybe 5-MeO-DMT if I read up more about them. Maybe I should see if I can combine.