Psychedelic Bump XVI

really craving a coffee myself... might be nice with the mdma.

 

Not much at all visually. Things seemed to want to move but just couldn't, there was color enhancement though. There was a pleasant body feel, little physical rushes of pleasure, but not too intense. There was mild music enhancement and mild euphoria at times. I think its useful. Like anything it has a time and place. I'd use this one more for recreation than introspection or something, but I did only do 25mg. I don't know if I'd recommend any less than that, but 17mg should be active. I did get the munchies along with it as well. Again next time I'm going for 50mg, probably mixed with weed. I hear smoked or vaporized is where 5-MeO-DALT really shines, but I know some people aren't comfortable with smoking chems. I've vaped low doses (~10mg), I didnt get much of an effect and it tastes horrible

 

This weekend was uneventful, unfortunately. I ended up sleeping for almost 24 hours straight. When you sleep that long, dreams start getting extra weird and abstract!

 

my trip has gone like this, time-line wise:
-5:20pm 1.5g of mushrooms
-approx 6:30pm ate another gram of mushrooms and took approx 100mg of mdma (eyeballed, could me a little more or less)
- i've been smoking weed throughout, with the last time at about 7:10pm

now 10 past 8 and feeling pretty lucid. hoping it kicks up again soon, i'll probably smoke some more weed to move things along. i've been writing in my journal (which is actually typing but whatever) throughout, i feel like it's been really helping me to explore this new headspace.

if i were to describe the overall experience so far, almost 3 hours after it began, i would say that so far it has been overwhelmingly positive and has shed a lot of anxieties and tension (some i was unaware of before this, and some that's come out and been understood during the experience) i had about the decision to try psychedelics. now instead of feeling nervous and scared about trying a higher dose of mushrooms or trying LSD for the first time, i'm looking forward to it as a new opportunity to further explore my mind. my next trip will be either just mushrooms or just acid, i'll keep the molly out of it. i think it really helped me take the plunge and take this trip, but i feel mentally prepared enough now to experience them without the anti-anxiety/relaxation effects of the MDMA. i'm only 3 hours in right now, but i feel pretty confident that i've just begun a lifelong relationship with psychedelics.

 

Awesome! I have been wanting to try Shrooms and Molly. Like 3.5 grams or more of Mushroom and 175-200mg of Molly. Yum!

Have you had a proper breakthrough yet?

 

i'd like to try the shrooms with molly again, but at a higher dose for both. i want to experience mushrooms on their own before that though.

next weekend i may have an opportunity to finally try the acid i've been sitting on for months. i had been planning on one hit, but i think my friend will be able to trip-sit for me, so i might go for 2. i've never done it before, and i'd like to be blown away my first time.

 

I'm sorry but snorting amphetamine, then smoking weed, then eating a low dose of mushrooms, then eating a medium dose of MDMA, then eating an even lower dose of mushrooms, is not "your first mushroom trip", its "your first time mixing mushrooms, mdma, amphetamine, and weed" huge difference

Also by staggering your doses this way you are wasting your drugs. You are settling for much less bang/buck. The amphetamine line alone gave you strong tolerance against BOTH the mdma and the mushrooms. If you want a drunken buzz then sure spend all day titrating small doses of various drugs all you want, but if you want to see what the buzz is about then be sober, plan a setting, and eat 3-5g in a safe place.

Continue showing a lack of respect for the fungus and I look forward to reading your "train wreak" erowid report mushrooms don't need mdma.

 

nope. i've tried it ~4 times.

 

Take the plunge and up your dose! 50mg, you won't regret it! It's not a crazy huge dose or anything but I think it'll get you there quite nicely.

 

they definitely don't need mdma, but it was enjoyable.

drugs are expendable, i don't really see it as 'wasting' them just because i don't get the biggest bang for my buck with every dose.

i've had (and am still having) a positive experience. if i had said 'my night has gone like this' instead of 'my trip...' it would be more accurate i suppose, because i feel like you're jumping on me for using the word 'trip'.

just because someone has a different method to their drug use than you doesn't mean it's inferior, it just means that it's different. we all approach things differently. this time i felt like the mdma helped me get past some of the anxieties i had about trying mushrooms, but i would have been alright without it. i wish i had stuck with just the shrooms from the start, and a higher dose, but what's done is done.

your post comes off as really aggressive, and i don't think it's necessary. i appreciate and value observations and advice from someone with more experience and knowledge than me, but they would be received better expressed as advice rather than admonishment.

 

day 2 LSA.. 830pm , vision is fucked now,, talk you later..

 

GM that's an amazing sig pic!

Here is some beautiful artwork that a few of the members of the psychedelic bump forum contributed on last night.

 

Thanks! I thought the detail was very close to the patterning that LSD produces.

That's an awesome collab. You can do that in chat? I love collab doodling. My bro and I would do that on the white board at work when we got bored. We made a game out of it, taking turns adding upon the doodle until the entire board was taken up then we'd start again.

 

Sorry it sounds aggressive, I tried hard to phrase it a few different ways but it's hard to not sound like a dick online when you're basically posting a "you're doing it wrong" post

my advice is to not fall for the illusion that different ways of taking drugs are equally good although i understand that by getting yourself high on 3 other things and keeping your mushroom dose low you were able to get over your anxieties about your perceptions of what mushrooms are like, but I think you'll find that when you finally do a proper dose you'll see that tonight has in fact not prepared you for it.

I'm not one of those "its all groovy maaaaan" guys even though I post like it sometimes I know from experience there's a right way and a wrong way to these things, and anyone here who has done mushrooms properly will tell you that the way you're taking them is not the right way, you're not going to learn anything from them, and it's not going to prepare you for the real thing. I'd rather you didn't trick yourself into thinking you've got them handled now that you've eaten ~1.75g (taking into account tolerance/staggerd doses) of weak/ok mushrooms.

I post this knowing it sounds like I'm a schoolteacher scolding you, but you are so new to this psychedelic thing, I also know you will one day find yourself speaking with other people this way.



Yeah GM your sig is epic!

 

It's on a website called flockdraw.

 

your coming across as very 'holier than thou' and it's not appreciated.

just because i don't choose to use drugs in the same way you do, doesn't mean i'm 'doing it wrong', or that i'm uninformed. i research any drug i put in my body for months before i ever consider trying it. i don't do anything that's unsafe.

i'm coming here to post about my experience, just like everyone else, and just because i do things differently than you would doesn't mean i deserve to be insulted and told i'm 'doing it wrong'. i've enjoyed my experience and am happy with the choices i've made, and i don't really care that if i didn't properly prepare myself for a larger dose of mushrooms, so i fail to see what i've done 'wrong'.

i appreciate constructive criticism, but i don't come here to be lectured.

 

I'd like to take a moment to advocate large doses.

Eggs, my advice to you if you really want to be blown away is to consider what dose you would be comfortable with, apparently 2 hits with a sitter, and just go a bit further than that. Don't think of increasing the dose as something that could cause any anxiety. The difference in risk between 2 and 3 hits is practically negligible. I'm a big advocate of the high dose LSD experience, and I think that you've experienced what it's like to be a bit underwhelmed by a trip. So just let loose a bit and really take the dive. It'll be worth it.

Again, I would suggest that you increase the dose even more. Load up 100 mg and get as much as you can out of it before you leave reality. That seems like the easiest way to ensure a breakthrough. You won't necessarily get all 100 mg before you can't smoke any more, but you won't have the problem of getting all of it and it not being enough. Side note, I've been feeling very envious of you with your DMTstash. I've been craving some.


I know both of you guys are pretty conservative with your dosing, but I think you would both benefit from leaving your comfort zones just a bit. Of course, that's provided that set and setting are as close to perfect as possible, and of course this is just a bit of advice from my own experience.

 

^ Some people black out on higher doses of DMT and 100 mgs is certainly in that range of possibility so that may possibly be an excessive amount, I dont necessarily disagree with your general message tho.

@eggsprog: That's cool that you gained some insight into the anxities and fears of tripping. One of the reasons I enjoy Mdma so much is that it not only seems to break the barriers downs when it comes to social and emotional constructs with people but that it gives one the abilitity to glean positive apprasial into experiential constructs as well it seems. For instance in my experience, its help me appreciate Salvia Divinorum more, its taken me to very extreme and novel places with 2cb and 2ce and has also effected my relationships with other plants and chems as well. I believe this effect on experiential constructs is one of the main reasons it shows so much promise in Ptsd therapy.

 

I fully support online statements that may come off as dick-ish, so long as they're to say something that needs to be said.

I fully agree, also..... I see no problem mixing drugs, but mixing them in that way seems almost dodging the whole point of mushrooms.....

And I'm not being too high and mighty, writer would have plenty of room to lecture me on psychedelics, I think I'm pretty soft compared to him. But I do take issue with methods of drug taking that involve repeated dosing, of multiple drugs, generally. They tend to have all the drawbacks of drug use, multiplied, and few or none of the benefits.

 

it's quite possible that we just have different views on 'the whole point of mushrooms'.

again, appreciate all of the advice.