Psychedelic Bump XXI

Sounds wonderful!

Sorry to beat this subject to death in this thread. But as some of you may have read, on 4/19 i am dosing 1.5mg 25i and 1.5mg 25c. I have never eaten either chemical before but know this stuff is high quality and well made through a friend. A couple people have told me the best way to dose these is buccaly. And they are not active orally at all. So does this mean I am really going to need to hold my spit in my mouth and now swallow for 30-45 minutes? That sounds awful to me.

I am strongly considering rectal administration but again, have never done any substance, psychedelic or not, that way..

What do some of you guys with experience with this chem think I should do!

 

I took 2 mgs 25I-nbome sublingually and held it under my tounge for 10-15 mins and got full effects. My blotters were complexed with HPBCD however.

 

from my ONE experience mixing ~150 ug L and 19 mg 2cb, i think i would have rather had a higher dose of 2cb and a slightly lower dose of LSD.

the visuals were almost overwhelming at one point, and i don't usually get that strong of visuals.

i took blotters like this twice. i wedged it between my UPPER lip and gum. at the beginning i swallowed my spit, because it had not made contact with the blotter and i could not taste it, so there was very little if any drug in my saliva. but after awhile (maybe 10 minutes) i decided to hold my spit in my mouth. you should do that once you taste the chemical, or when the blotter falls out of place and touches your tongue or saliva.

both times i kept my spit in my mouth for ~50 minutes. the 2nd time when i took the whole blotter at once, at 50 minutes i was starting to think i might be getting too high, so i didn't care if i was wasting any - so i spit out all my saliva and the blotter. neither time did i swallow the paper.

 

Whats that?

 

I think I would ate about 200ug of L and maybe 25-30 of b. Never actually tried 2cb though..

Thanks man, i am super excited for this trip. And i didnt really think of it like that, i suppose it wont be too bad until i taste the chemical. A friend and I have decided not to talk much to eachother while the blotters will be in our mouths.

 

a couple of my friends that tried those blotters said they held them in their mouths and drank beer, swallowed their spit...didn't really worry about it - and they still tripped. so you might not have to go all out like i did, but that's how i approached it.

 

THE HPBCD?

It's a chem that makes the nbome more soluble and increases bioavailabilty, so essentially more potent. Nbome's are hydrophobic which would be the reasoning to hold the chem in your mouth for such an extended duration. There are (or at least were) vendors who would sell the nbome compounds complexed with the HPBCD.

 

and there is at least some controversy as to whether or not NBOMes need to be complexed or not.
from some notes i took - i wrote that 25c MAY need complexed, but 25i HCl should have no need to be.


another thing to think about if you are dosing buccally, is the lightly brush your teeth beforehand, to clean the area where it will be absorbing through.

 

I always liked 25x administered nasally via blotter. Just stick it up there, pick it out later. No taste. Faster come up. Actually that might be a bit much for 3mg. I can't imagine it would be stronger than rectal administration anyway.

 

Lol, why not just squeeze one out later?



Bump for "your post" reminders, these threads are great.

And also, bump for a micro dose of LSD the other day. Dunno how micro, but 1/4 of one of the cartoony shiva thingies I posted in the pics thread. Spent the day painting in my studio, and god damn that was fun.

Really interesting, stimulation like I'd just chugged 2 cappuccinos for the first 2 or 3 hours, giggling at random shit and just generally enjoying a tiiiiny little drop of psychedelia until about the 4th hour. Some forgetfulness, and found it hard to focus myself on something at the start of the "trip" until I got into the studio, but then I just got sucked in.
I was finishing off this demo I did, and when painting the waves I didn't even need a reference. I knew exactly what the light was going to do, shapes became so clear(mentally) and I had a definite sense of "waveness" in me. I actually think the parts I painted high are much better than the rest..

Also actually cleared some mental baggage out, which I hadn't even realised was there. Released me just enough to go "lol wut?"
Very calming too, sat out in the garden for a few hours just watching, listening and thinking. Played with my dog which was great fun, hilarity ensued, and I thought how fucking strange most of the stuff we do must seem to him. Anyway, it was just a really good day and a fun and incredibly interesting experiment.


To sum it up in a more straight to the point kinda way, it's coffee that flexes your awareness and uncovers a jolly sense of humour at the absurdity of the simplest every day things, without the mindfuck, allowing you to get on with things.

Couldn't say I'd prefer a low dose to a higher one, they're so different, yet there are similarities running through. I'd like to try a bit of a lower dose, see if I can get rid of that initial confusion and keep the enhanced mental awareness.

 

Sounds like fun, when I move into my new place - I'd like to get some painting materials and try it out myself. I've never really been much for hand-drawing/painting... I've done digital art in the past, but that could be too annoying on LSD lol.

Another thing that will be fun... see what can be composed on a piano under the influence Melting in with the wave forms of your own creation... that will be awesome

 

Damn, I'm excited about tomorrow. Me and a friend are each gonna dose 1.5mg of 25c and 1.5mg of 25i and take a journey through ATL, as long as the weather holds up. It's supposed to be storming, but that might just make the trip better. We may decide to go somewhere else though. Still planning.

 

How long is the come up brother? And just stick it up the nose....is there any chemical tasting drip? Whats the onset time with that ROA?

Thank you, im not sure if these are complexed,

 

I am also excited! Tried to +rep you, but i gotta spread it around more. Giggity! :devil:

 

It's anywhere from 5 to 15 minute come up IME. I've done that three or four times. No drip or taste. Slight smell, not unpleasant.

 

I'm intrigued. Is it just as effective as other ROA's?

 

I found it to be as potent as sublingual/buccal, if not more. I remember porkstock saying at some point though, that it's probably not particualrly sanitary.

 

Neither is plugging i suppose.

 

How far up the nose does it need to be?

 

i remember the first post someone sticking the 25blots up their nose.. haha was that u?

tns. stick it in your ears.. sorry. I just had to say that..