Psychedelic Bump XXIII

I had a lot of tremor in my hand on my last miprocin trip, but yeah once the nausea was over with my body felt great. That was the most nauseous I've ever felt on a psychedelic, actually. I'm somewhat of an emetaphobe so if I take a drug that's known to cause nausea I'll take whatever measure necessary to prevent it. I staggered the dose over an hour and I think I took a ginger root pill with it, but that didn't really help. Could have been set/setting.

I've been wanting to trip recently, but I've also just began a decent bout of depression. I'm unsure if I'd rather take antidepressants or take a risk and have an introspective trip. I'm convinced this is the result of irrational/negative thought patterns, and maybe that's the cause of lowered levels of serotonin. I'm not sure if we're close to understanding that problem in clinical psych. But psychedelics can help me in understanding my negative thought patterns and give a little serotonin boost, so in a sense it doesn't matter.

 

Bump for absent friends.
Anybody know what/how Psychedelic Lover is doing?
I believe she is the one who started the first Psychedelic Bump thread.
Was just wondering, haven't seen her around for a long time, but I remember they lived pretty rustic and practically "off the grid" so who knows?
Whatever, just ponderin'.
If any of ya'll talk to her, tell Her PB says hi.

 

holy

 

yeah, i pretty much agree with all this. i smoke everyday, but on days that i trip, i usually wait til after the peak to smoke. unless i find that my dose isn't very strong and i want to amplify the effects a little.

i get similar vibrations on miprocin that i did on my one high dose of 4aces. but on 45 mg of aces, i was really tremoring and shivering, making it hard to walk smoothly. on miprocin, they are not that extreme, though i have not dosed that extreme either. 25 mg or less of miprocin gives me shakey, jittery energy like i mentioned, but not tremoring like the 4aces did.

but i do remember the come-up from aces to be at least a little smoother than the miprocin come-up

i felt quite nauseated after 17 mg miprocin, last time i took it. more nauseous than i have on doses above 20 mg.

psychedelics will give you a serotonin "boost" during the trip, but long term they may lead to downregulation of serotonin receptors, meaning that it doesn't matter how much serotonin is present...there are less receptors for serotonin to go.
so if your depression has anything to do with that, psychedelics could actually just be making it worse. as always, moderation is key. which i believe you practice already, so..don't get me wrong.

 

Yes. I'll go to something like Transylvania Calling about monthly April through October (though the culture seems stronger in Europe than in the US).

To find something near you try http://forum.isratrance.com/ - see trance in the world, North America. Goabase is good. Facebook is important - come at your questions (like where is campout?) from different directions. Google of course.

And check this out: http://realitysandwich.com/168630/conscious_convergences/

 

@ d0nny: This is in September, it's in North Carolina which I believe is fairly close to you. Looks like it could be promising...

http://touchsamadhi.com/

 

I have never heard that. MDMA may cause down regulation but not psychedelics as far as I know. They are not stimulating the relase of serotonin like MDMA they are just chemicals structurally similar to serotonin so they fit into the same receptors of the brain. I am never really down after a trip like I have been with MDMA. Or am I completely wrong?

 

Not all psychedelics have been shown to be serotonin releasers, few to the degree of MDMA but there are others besides MDMA and the Mdxx family. The alpha chems of the tryptamine class release serotonin similarly, such as aMT, aET, and 5-meo-amt.

To a lesser degree than those, other phenethylamines such as some of the 2cx chems, TMA-2, TMA-6 have shown serotonin and monamine release and some other tryptamines such as 5-meo-dipt and DPT have been shown to inhibit reuptake causing increased levels of neurotransmitters such as serotonin as well, long term or excessive use could possibly lead to down regulation though as porkstock mentioned.

Even with LSD, I feel pretty exhausted after sometimes, not necessarily down in the same way as MDMA but down enough where I don't care to do much the following day. I feel like when I was younger, I didn't need as much time to recover from these experiences. I still enjoy taking fairly high doses of psychedelics but it can put the mind and body through a lot and often requires some time to regroup.

 

LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJwaj7dPMMY"]Guy on Ecstasy dancing to techno - YouTube

now.. Imagine a guy in baseball cap and a "fear and loathing in las vegas" t shirt doing the same. that was me on saturday.

 

Really? I did not know that. I suppose it make sense all these chemicals that are similar to the mescaline/mdma structure like TMA are bound to have some MDMA traits.

 

Yeah they all strain the system. But you're right that it's the MDMA-ish ones that are the worst . . . actually some really bad brain damage comes from amphetamine abuse in particular. But even a heavy habit of mushrooms will definitely leave a possibly permanent footprint on the brain. A heavy habit of anything will though, doesn't matter if we're talking serotonin, dopamine, gaba, opioid, or what

 

yup, GB nailed it.


also, i think "conventional" psychedelics that mimic the structure of serotonin, could still eventually lead to downregulation of receptors. if they mimic serotonin, and bind to the same receptors...those receptors are getting over stimulated. the way your body deals with this is by making less receptors, so there is less stuff to get stimulated. but then...when you take away the drugs, there are less spots for your natural serotonin to bind to...and you feel lousy.

i'm not an expert in this field by any means. but that is how i understand it.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PozbCdtvixQ"]Techno Viking - Original (Great copy) - YouTube

 

North Carolina is a happening place in several respects, including transformational gatherings. Magical times we're in!

 

I've never heard of downregulation, thanks for the heads up. Just reading some Alan Watts can clear up my depression.

Another heads up: Don't forget the behavior of your mind is guided by the metaphysical assumptions of your culture.

 

Bump for foxy and Molly combo, listening to Salmonella Dub XD

 

Bump for rediscovering friends you thought were gone.
:love:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BilN7r_DvQ"]Salmonella Dub - Longtime - YouTube

 

Bump for LSZ, AL-LAD & LSD (dosing momentarily, approx. 150ug each). Plenty of Pepto standing by!

 

lol nice...

Im bumping for this empathogenic effect that is still lingering.

I was about to talk this model girl into shooting porn with me.. but it looks like she has some problems with her ex-boyfriend ( there is some problem going on, I know... based on her online blog)
I think I'm just gonna be best friends forever with the girl.goddamn mdma... warms my heart every time....

 

did you ever combine any two of these before? i would bet that 150 ug of any two of those would be a pretty strong trip.

be careful dude. you might wanna start a little lower.