Psychedelic Bump

yea. the long half life and unknown [but potential] neurotoxcisity have made me decide to at least wait a while between doses with this one.

so maybe not this weekend...but i'll think about it.

and yea, i noticed the VERY poor water solubility when getting it into solution to plug.

 

i think you would be fine by this weekend if you wish i was using it consecutive days.

 

makes sense.

though i think i could use a break...i'm still a little spacey from friday, and i might be best off giving myself a few weeks off :coffee:

 

that shpongle band is playing in a club a couple blocks down the street from me in a couple days so im going to eat L and 2ci and go with my buddy

 

It's just a DJ this tour, one can only pray they bring the whole band together once in the U.S. before they are done.

 

i've never done DMT, but i suspect it is (much) more visual than 2ce. i also haven't pushed my 2ce dosage above 20 mg but i have my most intense visuals ever from 19 mg.

be careful increasing your -t7 dose man. people have died from snorting ~35 mg i believe. and that could be roughly equivalent to 70 mg orally.

 

You guys... I finally convinced my bf, who might as well be straight edge, to trip with me tomorrow. He's the most anti-drug, closed minded person when it comes to this stuff.. he's never smoked weed, and he drinks lightly maybe 3 times a year. This is one aspect about us that we never had in common, him thinking all drugs are BAD and DANGEROUS and ADDICTIVE, and myself, I could never understand how someone can't be just the tiniest bit curious to try... But I can talk my way into anything and I somehow flipped a switch. I'm so freaking stoked! He's a really smart person, intellectually, not very spiritually, and I told him it's a shame to not take that mind of his to the next level. He came from hard times, growing up in Poland in the 80s and he's the stereotypical straight up immigrant workaholic, no time for play! But I'm so ready to help him flip his world upside down and inside out. I'm dosing him at 15mg 2c-e, which I think is a mighty heroic first dip into the waters. I'll be taking 35 or 40 myself, so pre-bump to that.

Can't wait to see how this goes.. I'll update ASAP!

 

I think everyone should go try 50ish mg. of 2ct7.
I really wanna get some more to mix with some L. Think that'd be killer.

 

Make sure to be a good trip buddy and make sure you both have a nice, relaxed environment. 2c-e sounds like sort of a scary starter drug to me.... I began with mushrooms and it was pretty fantastic. But even though most people seem to learn something from 2c-e, people often say it wasn't exactly a pleasant trip. I think something a bit less serious and a bit more goofy, relaxed psychedelic would be a better think to convince someone that drugs aren't necissarily all bad or scary instead of something that is really scary for a lot of people. But I guess I have very little experience with 2c-e and you also know this person and what they might be able to handle. Anyway, I hope it goes well.

 

^ I find shrooms scarier than 2ce. 2ce is just a heavy experience to me, big difference. I feel like shrooms take over my mind as where with 2ce I remain relatively clear headed its just got a heavy body load and significant time distortion.

 

yea 2ce nausea might put him off of trying other psychedelics. but i'm guessing you have to work with what you have.

 

did you dose em at the same time? and how much of each? that sounds like a pretty interesting combination but like most combos, space between doses greatly effects the experience. Just wondering if you spaced it out for 20+ hours or if it was all in one shot?

I agree 100% with this statement. 2ct7 is truely a diamond in the rough. It is my new favorite now, hands down. In combination with LSD it would provide the depth that 2ct7 alone lacks. i'd have to say go hard or go home on that comgination though. It's 2 very powerful psychadelics but low balling it on either would not provide the true experience the 2 together would imo. That would be an amazingly visual experience.

and thanks for your concern pork but I think(hope lol) I'll be alright. Im not snorting the shit and I've read reports up to 65 mg so hopefully I'll be safe at 60.

 

Yeah, I've definitely taken all this into consideration. I'm debating on starting him lower than 15mg, maybe 11-13 in case he has a sensitivity... 17mg 2c-i was my first trip ever, and although it was my worst trip to date (spun into a dark spiral due to an outside crisis) it intrigued me so much I just had to re-evaluate it. I find 2c-i, especially during the come up, much more uncomfortable physically and mentally than 2c-e, and as porkstock said, I'm working with what I have on hand ATM. Ideally, I'd start him off on Methylone but unless the postman brings it today before bf gets home from work it's gonna have to be 2c-e.. 'tis now or never, before he changes his mind lol If he ends up hating it, I'll never say another word about it but I really am thankful he's giving me (us) this opportunity to experience this as a couple finally.

Thanks for your advice.. I've done what I can the past few days to prep him for this and I think he has a good idea of what to expect (as much as someone who's never done psychs can possibly "expect" I guess) so as long as he keeps a good frame of mind throughout today, I think he'll handle it marvelously.

 

Yeah well that's good that you've thought about all this. Before I tripped for the first time my boyfriend kept trying to prepare me mentally, and I basically said, I don't want to know what to expect, I just want to jump in the water and do it. Every time he said "your going to feel..." or anything like that i was just like "shut up shut up shut up." haha. I was nervous and didn't want to think about it. It did turn out being my best experience so far. Your boyfriend is probably much less of a pussy than I was (and am. haha) though. But one thing that I think was really helpful was my boyfriend just being sweet and just being there. Anyway, I hope it goes well for you both!

 

He's not a pussy, but I don't think he's quite as adventurous as the average first timer. I know he's still pretty apprehensive about the whole thing, but I admire his courage to try, even if it's just to shut me up about it once and for all. Thanks for the well wishes and.. I have to say that your sig pic is SICK! <3 the Creature

 

I took 14mg 2cp and then about 3 hours later took 3mg DOI.

 

Just one hit of LSD today.

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i've had quite a few scarey mushroom trips, but 2c-e is scarey because of the speediness, anxiety and bodyload.

 

try 12mg...it's dosing is subjective, and just because 20mg won't blow your head off doesn't mean it won't blow his head off.

i've never wanted to go higher than 15mg with 2c-e

 

ive only done 2ce a couple of times so its a bit of generalizing but I never have felt fear during the experience, just a feeling of nausea and wanting to not be high during some of the heavier moments. The only 2c that has sent me into any sort of fear or panic is 2ci. Tryptamines tend to 'take over my mind' more than phens but people react differently.

I'm probably being ants at the picnic and picking out a small difference but there is a difference from being overwhelmed and being scared to me regarding trips.