Care to refute anything I said about Johnny Rotten or Malcome McLaren? The Sex Pistols were a made up band like the Monkees with McLaren playing the part of Don Kirshner. Personally I prefer the Monkees. Dig the Pistols all you want. If their music does it for you rock on my friend. But you should know the truth. They didn't so much as go to the bathroom without Mclaren telling 'em how to do it. My hero Mr. Thunders was good friends with and played with all of 'em except Rotten, so they do have that going for 'em. And I really like Sid because he loved the New York Dolls as much as I do, maybe more if that's possible! But Johnny Rotten and Malcome McLaren are gonna BURN!!! Like I said, dig 'em all you want. But at least now you know the truth. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Oh and where did McLaren learn about RnR and rebellion? From following the New York Dolls around like a sick puppy! When it's real it's MAGIC... and when it's contrived it's BULLSHIT!!!
You're presuming that I wasn't already aware of the Sex Pistols' history. Rotten and McLaren both have claims to being the brains behind the operation...I'm guessing the truth is somewhere in between. Regardless, it doesn't really matter, as the great thing about the Pistols was that they crystallized everything that was so important about the punk rock movement and did it like no one else was doing at the time and no one else has since. If you're sheepish enough to dismiss the Sex Pistols because you think they were "manufactured"...well, you're missing the point entirely. Ah well, more Public Image Ltd. for me. :$
I 'think' they were manufactured? hahahahaha 'I'm telling you Syl, we got this guy... and he can't really sing but he has the 'tude... I think we'll call him Johnny Rotten!' MM It is well documented that the Pistols were McLaren's puppets. He blew his chance with the Dolls and wasn't gonna let it happen a second time. Candidates for President are less calculated than the Pistols.
And that detracts from their relevance how? Say what you will, but they got together and made it happen and it's all there on tape in its brutal, honest, irreverent glory.
I wouldn't use the word 'honest'. They sure did cause a ruckus though! And a lot of fantastic bands never heard VU, Stooges or Dolls- but they heard the Pistols and decided to pick up a guitar and stick it to the man. For that I salute the Pistols! The best of that bunch eventually went back and did their homework and didn't rely solely on copying the Britpunks. Johnny Rotten is an insufferable prick though, no?
The great thing about the Sex Pistols' influence wasn't just that they inspired a million copycat clones (although I'm sure they had those too), but a multitude of different bands with varying styles. They pretty much blew the doors wide open. Dunno, never met the guy.
If you can watch Rotten pontificating what is and what is not punk while sipping evian in a limo and not find him to be an insufferable prick, then you're a bigger man than I. It makes my blood boil much like the Pistols song 'Dolls'. Do you like the Dolls? I can chat them up all day but Rotten gives me a headache. The guy is a rock-n-roll hater.
I got 3 words..FUCK the Sex Pistols..haha..thats 4..but damn that is a lot of pages to read through..so I skipped them..here are my favorites in no particular order. Bad Brains, Cadillac Tramps, Manic Hispanic, Throwrag, Subhumans, Exploited, The Damned, DK, Circle Jerks, Black Flag, Germs, Chaos UK, Clash, Meatmen..and a lot more..I am just to stoned to think about it.
Nice list...although i gont dig the Clash very much(but its your taste i guess ^_^) Great words about that shitty bads...*loads a gun*...lets go hunt us some Johnny Rotton
i think i'll agree on tha a full hundred %. that's basically how live feels for me in general. this immense divide between that lil bit of magical stuff that you sometimes just walk into and the majority of bullshit you have to face pretty much every fucking day
"You need an escort to take a piss, he holds your hand and shakes your dick!" Thunders let him have it, and even Steve Jones was in on that one. Man, sometimes I like Jones more than Lydon. I find Rotten funny in some old interviews, but these days he's just obnoxious.
