Question about pubic hair

I'd hate to hear his stance on tattoos...


Anways to Mark-


People change things about themselves for many reasons, not necessarily because they don't like the thing, maybe just because they prefer something else. It's as simple as that really.


Think of it this way. If as human beings we didn't have pubes, ever in life, do you think people would go out and buy pube wigs? I doubt it. The thing is we have pubes and not everyone wants them, especially in this day and age when they're no longer really necessary. A lot of body hair is no longer necessary which is why people choose to get rid of it. It can keep in odor. If you like odor fine, but some don't. That doesn't mean they have a terrible body image because they don't want to have that odor.

It's the same reason we wear different clothes usually everyday. Because we prefer something different than what we had. That doesn't mean we hate what we wore yesterday.

 

But I'm not arguing with you and I never was looking for one. You got defensive when I expressed my experiences with shaved and non shaved women.

1) It is artificial because nature put the pubic hair on us. And waxing it off is not a naturel act.

2) Pubic hair is located in a region of your body that is normally only scene by yourself or in intimate situations.

Therefore unless there is a good reason to need to remove pubic hair. Like perhaps you're a model and it's for a job interview. Or, for an operation. Or, you make your living waxing others.

It is by defacto, a superficiel act. Being done either for the sake of vanity or conformity or media manipulation.

In short,
The over-used argument that it "actually feels better" is only the memory of when it was a new sensation. IE: The first time you went bald and then had sex. But that new sensation feeling quickly fades and if you want to get it back, you need to grow back your hair and shave it again.

I do not have one.

And this comment is based on ???? Every source say's that at best they don't know and perhaps it is for phermones.

On that note, it is naturel and it is a sign of "adult hood." And I'm certain when nature decides we no longer need pubic hair, it will get rid of it for us. (no waxing or shaving required)

As far as all other claims of hygene or other. Well let's not forget there was a time not too long ago that doctors recomended cigarettes and even perscribed them for the patients. So given that the glands are down there and nature does not give us "optional parts" . I will not be surprised that if one day they discouver some sort of cancer or other problem resulting from years of hot waxing.

 

You sound like those conservative christians who preach that lust is wrong and sinful, just saying. Your argument is an OPINION. It is not fact, for anyone besides yourself, your not showing us the light about our terrible body images. Some prefer pubes, others don't, bottom line. Some prefer to suck dick, others don't. Does that make it unnatural?

Here's the thing. When mankind's consciousness was very simple and we were still run by nature, that argument might have been right. But in this day and age men don't fuck women to have children because of the way their pussy smells. People fuck people they're attracted to. Some find a shaved pussy attractive, therefore they'd fuck it. Others find a hairy one attractive. Our consciousness has expanded over time and we now mostly act out of want and desire. "I want that job", "I desire that woman." We're not driven by nature anymore. Hence, we have the shaved pussy.

I'll tell you what. When I hear of a man who got cancer from fucking a shaved pussy, maybe then I'll admit you might have a point.

 

Oh fucking hell! I've been lovely to you! It's only now that I'm pissed.

Do you have a ****?! I do. I've spent twenty+ years getting to know it. I love it, I know it pretty damn well. It ALWAYS feels good. The sensation doesn't fade. It's always better.

I have appendicitis. I better not have it removed though. Sure, I could die. But I'm sure if nature had meant me not to have an appendix then I just wouldn't have one.

You're not for real. What's with all the cancer shit? You've just lost what respect I had for you. It was a pretty fair argument up until this point. Do you know what cancer is? Don't talk shite about medicine unless you understand it.

 

I've stated my experiences. (I'm sure you have your own)
I've approached the comments of others in a logical fashion.

But I've never "preached" anything as being sinful.

I've only stated that pubic hair is naturel. (If you have information to the contrary.. please share) And therefore, removing it is not naturel.. it is a superficial act because it is on an un-seen part of the body and is done for aesthetic reasons.

Anything else that I may have said has been to point out your own circular arguments. And to question the reasons why you are compelled to try and convince me that I'm a fool.

Your hostility makes no logical sense unless of course, there are some other underlying reasons that are perhaps not consciously being expressed.

 

You're superficial! You're super superficial. Think man, think!

 

Just because there is absence of side-effects following appendectomy. Does not mean it no longer serves any useful function. The appendix serves as a haven for useful bacteria when illness flushes those bacteria from the rest of the intestines.

Go ahead and google it.

There are alot of misconceptions around health and the medical community. Before trying to debate or argue a point. You might consider doing a little bit of research.

 

So tell me Mark, how long is the hair on your head? Or do you cut it regularly because you find it looks better that way? Would you call that superficial or your preference for your body?

And what if someone had crabs? Technically speaking to have no pubes would avoid this, thus being more sanitary and for a practical purpose. So if one were to get crabs and remove their pubes, it would be for a natural instinct (purpose).

I don't need to convince you that you're a fool. You're entitled to your opinions and that's fine. But you're twisting shit around to make it sound like anyone who gets rid of their pubes has body issues. That's not always the case. Some just don't want pubes.

What about athletes who remove body hair? Is that vain?

And since you brought up the topic of superficial Mark, why do you feel so strongly about pubes? For what purpose would you possibly go out of your way to defend them, then twist around the words of others and tell them they have body issues? Just to get kicks?

If I come off as hostile it's only because I don't fucking appreciate people telling other people how they feel about their own bodies. If you wanna rub your face in pubes, fine, if you like the tickle of your own ass hair on the back of your neck due to the placement of your head, fine. But don't tell other people what they are and that they must have issues because they shave a small patch of hair.

 

^^ I have a question. How do you feel about earrings? We all have ear lobes without holes in them isn't putting a hole in your earlobe or anyplace else on your ears an unnatural act?
What about Beards? I have one because I like it. I shave around it to get a shape I like. But hair still grows there. What about Haircuts. Granted I have long hair and like it I don't begrudge anyone who does have short hair. But it is still hair that grows there for a reason. What about men who shave their junk? I have done it in the past (actually I let my girl at the time do it because she liked it and thought that my having hair down there when she didn't was kind of itchy).

Shave don't I don't give a shit. I honestly have no problems either way in the wise words of Bootsy Collins, "It all depends on the angle of your dangle."

Peace Out,
Rev J

 

You were asking me this?


I don't care what people do with their bodies. I'm pretty sure you and I are on the same page.

I wouldn't compare earrings to shaving. Shaving is removing something that's already there. Piercing one's own anything is adding something.

The idea that trimming ones own hair is superficial or represents bad body image is just absurd to me.

One doesn't grow a beard to better their body image, they do it because they like it. One doesn't shave their pubes to better their body image, they do it because they like it.

 

We were typing our responses at the same time. That was aimed at the OP. You just posted before I did.

Peace Out,
Rev J

 

Ah, I sort of figured.

 

What you're doing now is what is called in my culture as "sodomizing the flys." And I'm not going to go there.

I did not pick this fight and I have attacked no one.

I have stated my experience and I have discussed this logically and free
from emotional and childish sensationalism.


Therefore you won the arguement and you're free to contine your rant and attack without me.

 

Man, I'm really not trying to argue or pick a fight. But you were inappropriate with your ideas on body image towards dollyfizz. It's one thing if you hold a certain opinion, but it's another when you try to tell someone that they feel a certain way about themselves because of your own opinions on the matter. It's like trying say they see themselves through your ideas, and it's fucked up. It's rude, inapproriate, and it pisses me off, which is why I responded the way I did.

I'm sorry if I insulted you, but you had it coming in my opinion.

 

Oh come on now. I've got your stuff coming in my email and I know you're better than this. I'm certain your not trying to take my comment as "un-naturel act" as in having sex with a goat. But as in that waxing your gentials is not something we would normally do unless there is external manipulation.

The average young adult today has no idea what a "naturel" women looks like. They get their education from the media and porn. Today's youth get their images for comparison from things like porn. And what that has developed into is men that may not even be aware that vaginas have hair and young girls that try to conform to some sort of un-real and un-naturel concept of sexuality. Then add to that the cosmetic industry sharks are only too happy to feed into these negative and un-attainable images in order to make money.

People are biased to think of their choices as correct, despite any contrary evidence. This bias gives dissonance theory its predictive power, shedding light on otherwise puzzling irrational and destructive behavior.

An overarching principle of cognitive dissonance is that it involves the formation of an idea or emotion in conflict with a fundamental element of the self-concept, such as" "I am a successful/functional person", "I am a good person", or "I made the right decision." The anxiety that comes with the possibility of having made a bad decision can lead to rationalization, the tendency to create additional reasons or justifications to support one's choices.

The adolescents of today are disenfranchised and running from one commercial induced fad to the next. Hopelessly trying to find a "norm" they are supposed to conform to and identify with. Add in a little cognitive dissonance and you have more or less the problems we are seeing today.

 

I did not tell anyone that they were supposed to feel a certain way about themself.

I have only repediatly asked Dolly and yourself why this issue so important that you feel the need to be defensive against me.

So let me make it clear once again.

I'm a nobody.

It matters little what I may or may not think. Attacking me makes no sense at all. Unless of course, there is some else at play.

 

You said this to dollyfizz. You told her that she's obviously getting rid of her pubic hair because she doesn't like the way it looks. How do you know how she feels about herself? You insinuated both directly and indirectly that she musn't like the way she looks and that she must be uncomfortable in her own skin. You've done this multiple times, each time trying to weasle out of it by turning the discussion around and asking the person why they care so much or by saying that your opinion doesn't matter.

The reason I've bothered to discuss this to this length is because I don't like the way you responed to her, it's ignorant. So I thought I'd stick around to let you know this.

What you say doesn't matter, until what you say unfairly critiques the body image of someone else, then it matters.

 

It's a logic problem.

No one..
Absolutely no one..

Gets rid of anything IF THEY LIKE IT.

This is NOT telling someone "how they feel." It is an observation of what I had believed until this moment, was a self-evident fact.

And that was ;

Normally unless someone is a mentally ill, the average peson tends not to get rid of anything they like.

So therefore, if she shaved off her pubic hair. There was something she obviously did not like. If she liked it, she would have kept it. This is not something difficult to figure out.


You win.

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Nothing in this entire "discourse" has bothered me until now.
So I am very sorry to be the arrogant frenchman in my next 2 questions. But do they not teach basic comprehension in anglophone schools ? Or has it really gotten that bad ?

Personally I'm really not overly involved in the subject matter of this exchange. But what I am left with is a very perturbed sense of just how so many people can not comprehend to the fullness of what they are reading and therby, place their own interpretations based on their emotional reactions.

 

See, you did it again by indirectly suggesting one must be mentally ill in order to get rid of something they don't like (Pubes).

You insinuate that there's something wrong with her and then turn around and insult her for shaving.

Fuck it, I'm done with your passive aggressive bullshit.

 

I love it when people on the forums start debating my field. I don't need to Google it, thank you. I have a career in it!

I'm not trying to change the topic here, but the appendix thing was just an example. It actually doesn't serve any useful function. Recent research does suggest that there's some bacteria doing it's stuff in there. Even if this is true though, it's function is not powerful enough to make an impact on the human body. This doesn't matter though and is very off topic.