question for catholics

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    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    2 Macc 43-46
    43 And making a gathering, he twelve thousand drachms of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead, thinking well and religiously concerning the resurrection,
    44 (For if he had not hoped that the that were slain should rise again, it would have seemed superfluous and vain to pray for the dead,)
    45 And because he considered that the who had fallen asleep with godliness, had great grace laid up for them.
    46 It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins.

    Note v.46 especially.

    This is what I told you to look up. It is on topic as well. It is in the Catholic Bible as well as 1st C. BCE sources of the LXX. Luther was the one who dropped it from canon. Most early Christians did not read the Hebrew Scripture but read instead the LXX.

    Of Paul's 93 quotes, 51 are in absolute or virtual agreement with the LXX, while only 4 agree with the Hebrew text. http://www.studylight.org/dic/hbd/view.cgi?number=T4699

    Another interesting set of lists:
    List of LXX Quotations in the NT

    List of Masoretic Quotations in the NT

    Also, it is in the Greek that Mary is first identified as a virgin. We are posed with a dilemna. Either the LXX is not authoritiative and it is a lie that Mary ws to be a virgin or the LXX is True (capital T true) and Maccabees, with the other books as wel, should be canon as it is with most Christians in the world.


    Yeah, but my point was that Jesus said that the sin against the Holy Spirit would not be done in thi life or the next life. This implies that some sins can be (no, will be) forgived in the next life.

    My point was: the word purgatory is not found in the bible, but neither do the words Trinity, Incarnation, or Rapture (for those that accept a Pre-trib Rapture).

    We can prove the Trinity thorugh logic and through hermenutics. Why not the same for purgatory and prayer for the dead?

    BTW- What is your opinion on the Corinthian Letter I suggested you read that deals with purification by fire?
     
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