question for the fakers out there

youre fake. some believers are full hearted. dont group everyone together

 

yeah well, everyone's fake in some way. Don't pretend you're not.

and sorry but I found the whole "Yeshua Cristo" thing to be a little pretentious. That's why I was asking how old you are.

 

lol good cuz your christian worldview is simply whack.

whack as could be.

:cheers2:

whack whack whack

 

I like pagan views and think it's interesting. My problem with christians, like coreymichael, is that once they put all their faith into christ they refute all and everything else unless it's in the bible. It's like once someone is a christian they become all knowing in the realm of god as if the bible contains all the ever need to learn about the matter. The my religion is better than yours is bullshit.

 

Why do people feel the need to make their religion sound like it has all the answers? No religion on this planet has all the answers. In fact, all religions put together may be closer to the 'truth', but us understanding God is like an ant understanding what made you decide to sport dreads.

 

devote religous folk like to pretend their religions have all the answers because they over generalize what feels right to them to the rest of the world. Religion is a moral crutch...the 3 types of people that follow religions like christianity and use it as a tool to judge and "save" others are as follows....
1. they are people that have done terrible things and feel horrendous guilt from it and thus view the Christian principle of "You sinned? No worries...just pray to God and tell him you're sorry and it will all be washed away and you can start fresh immediately!" as a crutch to relieve their guilt. Funny thing is...once you relieve yourself of any harbored guilt...you feel better and have a new outlook on life and thus good things start happening to you....religous people will credit that to God and not to themselves which only perpetuates everything.
2. People who have lived really fucked up lives and have severe emotional, self esteem, and self worth issues will easily fall victim to the religous world cuz it gives them a sense of security, love, and instead of facing their self esteem and worth issues they can "hand it over to God" and let God be in control of the many outcomes in their lives. I love the saying...."God wouldnt give you anything you cant handle!" This belief goes to show that these people really have no inner locus of control which is a sign of low self esteem! They believe God has predestined everything for them and love the idea of it....it basically is a mechanism to deflect any responsibility for choice making and dealing with tough and painful experiences.
3. Finally the folks that are raised in a super religous family and dont know any other way of perceiving things will usually remain super religous...till one day they start experimenting with acid....lol....[as in my case at age 16].....

 

QFT. Nothing helped me see the truth more than eating mushrooms and lsd.

 

greenearthgirl - i'm not too concerned what some random forum chick thinks about me. however, i will respond. everyone may be partially fake in some aspects of their life. when it comes to my spiritual beliefs; i stand by my convictions at all times. i may fall short of living a good life, but i try my best. so don't try to belittle me. i can call Jesus whatever i want, in my opinion[since his name is not even in the Torah] AKA original Old Test. for you newbs out there.
np - you're whack. you're just a drunk who acts like a jerk 90% of the time. also trying to instigate people to get upset on a forum by spewing non-sense.
shadygrov - wrong, i'm a judaeo-christian. i believe in all the different original generations of the Lord. David, Abraham, Jacob, Muhammad, etc. there were multiple religions based off of the same roots. I'm a Jewish Studies, Christian Studies, and Religious Studies major. I do NOT take one side of the religion puzzle into consideration, I take multiple.
jim - i was just standing up for my convictions. don't discredit that.
mandy - i'm not pretending anything whatsoever. see comment to jim. religion CAN be a moral crutch for the various reasons listed. that doesnt mean there arent people who are spiritually concerned for other reasons. i was really offended by your little passage as a matter of fact. you claim to be devote in buddhism, does this make YOU weak minded? you look to the Dalai Lama for example, what's wrong with me or ANYONE lifting things up to God? clearly he wants us to try to live our lives to the fullest. so why not?

 

also, how in the world do you see the truth through drugs like acid, lsd, and mushrooms? these are man-made. mushrooms are sometimes natural though.

 

I in fact agree with most things you said, other than "personally i think pagan worldviews are silly". That's when you got lumped into that narrow-minded-christian category. There's no need to be so defensive. :cheers2:

 

lolololol...yup...you're now ignorant. When aren't mushrooms natural. They grow from the earth or cultivated from the thing collective from the earth. Spores germinate and eventually mycelium begins to form which produce the mushrooms, as means of reproducing and dropping more spores to ensure the stability of the species. There would be such a thing on the planet if "he" didn't create them. And acid and lsd are the same thing and come from Ergot. Organic chemistry, that being natural chemistry, is used to isolate already existing compounds and combine them into a new molecule known as lysergic-acid-diethelimide. (spelling could be slightly wrong). The molecule is very closely related to psilocybin, the active ingredient in mushrooms. Morning glory seeds naturally contain part of the lsd chemical structure, lysergic-acid. Some scientist say that lsd is likely to exist within an organism somewhere on the planet, it just hasn't been discovered yet.

Mushrooms and Ayuhuasca have been used for thousands of years in ceremonies and rituals to experience god and other levels of consciousness. A person that studies religion would know these have been and remain an important tool in the progression of human consciousness throughout history.

 

mushrooms are sometimes altered by lacing things with them. at least from where i'm from. lsd and acid are drugs because you cant just find a means to obtain those yourself. just so we're clear i'm aware that mushrooms are often natural. i know that they grow out of the ground lmao. what did you expect me to think otherwise? el oh el

 

I'm not exactly sure what a judeo-christian is. Does that mean you're Jewish by birth and converted to Christianity?
Either way I don't know many christians/jewish people who believe Muhammad was God. But if you're using your religious beliefs to try and live a good and moral life- more power to you. It's the hypocritical and self-righteous Christians who really grind my gears.

 

judaeo-christian is a soup label describing the body of concepts, values, traditions, moral standards, and other things that Judaism and Christianity share. i'm not Jewish by birth. i'm Indian, African, Polish, and German.
i'm glad we could come to some sort of agreement :cheers2:

 

The mushrooms are still always natural. It's the things the "lace" with then that aren't natural. The mushroom itself still 100% natural. And I highly doubt they are lacing mushrooms. Not sure why or even what people would use to lace them. lol...you missed the point i was trying to make though.

 

this is true. i still got the point you were making. i've just never taken mushrooms. i understand that they are used to see different perspectives.

 

i now officially hate this thread.

 

:sad: sowwy

 

it's all good.

i do wonder though...for those of you who have been saying anti-rasta, anti-christian, ant-religious things in this thread, what do you believe? as far as creation and higher beings etc?

 

I don't believe in any form of higher power

and why should I?

No proof = no beliefs from Pat