- Questioning The State Of Dying -

There is only one way to know for sure....
But I learned to live in this moment and to try to enjoy fully every second of my life, as much as I can. I learned on acid that if you are in search for something, you will never find it, because there are so many things you need to know before that. And by searching for it, you ignore so many other things witch are in front of your "nose", witch you need to know first. Same thing is with death. I don't have interest in what it is going to look like because when the time comes, I promise you, and you can hold my word for that, we will know how it looks like. But before that moment, we all here agree that we are in this physical body on this place with a reason. I am not even looking for the reason why we are here, because maybe in a search for a reason, I will ignore something in front of my nose that is actually explaining you something witch is a part of a reason, or reason itself. I am not afraid of dying, and for sure I don't think it is the end, and when it comes, I will welcome it, like I welcome everything else that comes my way, on drugs or without. And if you ask me, I think it is not painfull at all, as long as you welcome it.

 

I remember when my hell began. I was subject to facing every negative moment in my recent life. Every moment of my life was reflected back to me through the external world. Every thought manifested itself through a lesson in this physical realm. That hell became heaven when I decided to make it heaven. I made sure every thought I have was pure and I never stopped questioning in my mind any curiosity I would have. I learned so much from the external world and when you finally get to the peaceful life here where you have no more confusion or phoniness or past negative deeds holding you back, well.. I have to say that life for everyone is a test. Many people fail and live with baggage and uncertainty. I know that there are people who serve their time in horror like myself. You really must face your evil thoughts because they are brought out in the physical world to haunt you. When you pass through, life becomes neutral. You are granted wisdom you never could have dreamed of before. The world changes completely. Still every once in a while I slip up and once again must face the negativity I have created, but it is easy now. My life is 1000X better. I feel wonderful much of the time. I rarely spend time pondering anything anymore because almost everything I could want to know will be revealed to me. One thing I cannot know is how we got here and where we go. The truth is we are here now and that there is no reason to ponder this question when we could be enjoying life to the fullest. Just lazing around all day taking slow walks out in the sunny woodlands is heaven. Wherever you are, you are there for a reason and you must come clean with yourself and do or say nothing which can cause negative feelings for yourself or others to actualize heaven on earth. Be optimistic and appreciate nature. Your reward for being pure of heart and appreciatively optimistic will be immense. I have lived through hell and I can tell you that anyone who has made mistakes, if you are still here, you can change and become pure of heart and recieve your reward of heaven on earth.

 

^^^
That is exactly my message!
Enjoy what you have now in this moment and try to make others more happy, don't rush to something you are not yet ready for. Because if you get there, you might start missing what you left behind, and than, it is too late, than you will rush somewhere else again not prepared. Thats the feeling that I sometimes have, that plenty of people are rushing through this life, chasing something they don't even know what they are chasing. And than, not only once happened that somebody lying on his bed, dying, starts crying how he didn't pay attention on small things witch are more important than "big" goales that they were chasing whole their life. Not only once happend that dying person cries because only than he realized that he could've spend more time and love more their children, wife, friends...., how unimportant that career that they made is now...
So, only thing I can say, is pay attention to every little thing that you are honoured to realize and expirience, you can always love more, be better person, help somebody.... We all need you, you are important part of a chain, and if one part brakes, the whole chain is broken. Who do you think you are to hurt yourself when all of us need you!!!! Live and let live, don't warry, the time for dying will come, that is the only certain thing that I can promise you!

 

First of all, God bless you and your dear friend Oxy.
Let me just say, normally I dont like to push my belief's onto people either on the forums nor in person, but in this case I am going to make an exception and however it is veiwed I really dont mind. Im just going to state what I truly believe in my heart and stop beating around the bush.
I most definitley think your friend did indeed meet God in however conceivable manner your friend, at that point in life, could gather. Not only do I think that people who experience near death or come back to life have seen the astral/heavenly planes but also that a presence of God is felt. And not only just that, I am going against the popular opinion here, as well as my own statement in previous posts on this very thread, and stating that I also think that people have seen this progression without even coming close to dying.
After the thing's (for an extreme lack of a better term lol) that I've experienced in my short lifetime, I have been left with an unshakable, 100% certainty that there is a God, and that there is reincarnation, and also that there is progression as well as IMMENSE pain in purification during the transitory state of negation of the bodily host. Word's could never put my experiences into a conceivable light for other's, it is an experience one would have to go through, alone, without being taught or told, in order to grasp. I feel that what I have seen/felt/heard whatever are certain thing's that not everyone is ready for, but I usually dont tell people this way I think becuase it automatically puts me in 2 positions :
1. Holier than thou
2. Absolutley insane/delusional/imaginative.
But when you transcend not only time and space, the ego, and nature as a false, dualistic reality itself, certain realization's come to the few who are blessed by God's Love that are able to give up any concept of the self. I firmly believe that my experiences are not subjective, but that reality, nature, consciousness, and existance on the physical plane is entirely subjective, non-eternal, and in fact an immeasurable size smaller then what the Light of Creation brought us out from and will return us to.
People can think what they want of me after reading this post, it doesnt matter. Those who know me know that God is my only reality, those who dont may see me as delusional and closed minded, or any number of in betweens and all arounds. But I am telling you that there is God, it is not subjective, and when you are ready to put out your hand and grab onto the One Hand that has been offered to you since the dawn of the Birth of Nature, life, reality, everything changes in a way that is so overwhelmingly blissful that you just cant understand until you give in. I mean I was a complete angry, depressed atheist (not all atheists are like this, obviously, but I was) until I received deeksha from a friend whom I now consider a saint, and how can I explain the wave upon immense wave of larger than life euphoria that comes to me seemingly out of nothingness? How can I be cooking food for my son after a 14 hour work shift, and just break down into tears at the absolute beauty of being in that situation? How can I feel a Love so powerful well up in my heart when I am just sitting there making copies on a fax machine, or brokering freight out to a foreign truck driver, that time literally stops for me and I feel embraced, warmed all over my entire body, as my soul spreads out into the universe, enveloping and embracing all that exist's in it's path outward?
Maybe some will say because of a chemical imbalance, maybe some will say my imagination, maybe it is something else. Maybe it is? When someone tell's me that my God is a product of imaginative, wishful thinking, I tell them "I truly hope your imagination brings you as much never ending bliss and love as mine has. God bless you"
Om shanti and Namaste my Family, we all have our own outlooks but the fact that we are Family can not be ignored. -

 

allow me to correlate some of my post to zeppelin lyrics

"You are granted wisdom you never could have dreamed of before." - Anything I wanted to know, any place I needed to go
Hear my song. People won't you listen now? Sing along.
You don't know what you're missing now.

"Still every once in a while I slip up and once again must face the negativity I have created" - These are the seasons of emotion and like the winds they rise and fall
This is the wonder of devotion I seek the torch we all must hold.
This is the mystery of the quotient Upon us all a little rain must fall.

"I rarely spend time pondering anything anymore because almost everything I could want to know will be revealed to me. One thing I cannot know is how we got here and where we go. The truth is we are here now and that there is no reason to ponder this question when we could be enjoying life to the fullest. Just lazing around all day taking slow walks out in the sunny woodlands is heaven." - Many times Ive lied
Many times Ive listened
Many times Ive wondered
How much there is to know.
...
Mellow is the man
Who knows what hes been missing
Many many men
Cant see the open road.

Many is a word
That only leaves you guessing
Guessing bout a thing
You really ought to know, ooh!

All lyrics from Houses of the Holy album tracks 1, 2 &3

 

The Rain Song was one of the first song's I learned on guitar :tongue:
Good choice of comparison elfin! Though I've moved on from Zepplin into the realms of comparing my intuitive perception to Yes lyrics, the Zep still ring's true.

 

Relayer,
God bless you!
Once on this forum I said that I am too stupid to imagine all of that, and as you said, there were different comments to that (I don't want to repeat all the responces). As you also said, one must go throught that on its own. You have to be one, to become One. You call that God, I don't even call it because (as you said) there is no words (specially not only one) to describe it. Only word witch comes very close to that, but it so weak (I mean word, compared to the feeling) is Love! Love conquers everything, maybe that is also why I never had a bad trip, because I was always holding on love. And even without drugs, whenever something is looking like not so good situation, I start sending love all around, and in a second you start feeling blessed and so good no matter in witch situation you are. And belive me, I've been in a plenty very tough and ugly situations. Even if a disaster happens to you, there is always at least a tiny little thing witch is nice in all that nightmare, and I remeber those situations by those nice things, instead of remebering it by that disaster. It is somehow like the ability to percive only good things, while bad do not exist at all, or they are turned into good.
I know Relayer that plenty of people do not understand things like we would like, and so many times I just stop writing or saying more so that 1 of 2 situations (saint or fool)that you mentioned does not occur. What I am trying is to make people find One deep inside themselfes, as we are all same and one, and everybody got that in themselfes, but for people it is easier just to say this guy is crazy, or to have you as an idol and saint, instead of feeling what you are trying to tell them.
Love you all!

 

Namaste Shapes, Love is the only answer, Hate is the root of cancer

 

relayer you are pretty wise. what is deeksha though? sorry...i know i ask a lot of questions, but i have a bad case of curiosity and i hate not knowing about things.

 

I think your curiosity is wonderful, and the world would be much brighter if people would be more interested in spirituality!
Deeksha, basically, is an energy transmission that a person who has received it and learned how to give from saints, guru's, etc. is able to share with you, by placing their hands over your head. What is happening is certain pathways in the mind are loosened, redirected, changed in some way, in order that God-Realization can manifest within you as a reality. It is also a means of opening someone to selflessness and love, as well as many other things, but basically they all come with God-Realization :tongue:
Some say the physical effects are to sutbtle to prove, which currently, they are, but as having recieved the deeksha twice, I can assure you, it works.