Read This: GW Bush By November 2008?

You are the evidence.

You are the biggest hypocrite here. I have provided an alternative opinion and supported it with links, and you accuse me of trolling and flaming. What have you contributed to this thread? I am dead serious, show me. Higherthanhell may not agree with me but at least he provides material input and links, you provide nothing.

Your last display of your valuable contributions. You flame other members for calling your flames boring, and you tell him to leave. Why do you feel he has no right to post here but you do?

 

The double standard and the hypocrisy. Whether anybody else will admit it or not, it is clearly obvious. Because you believe I am a "neocon" you single me out when others consistently violate forum guidelines far worse than I ever have. There was a time when you seemed to accept a difference in opinion and believed in freedom of opinion enough to confront Skip defending it.

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172515&page=2&pp=10

Some members have flamed me in nearly all of their posts in this thread and I am the one being given a FINAL warning. Please explain to me how this is not hypocrisy.

Here is a side note for the people who like to throw around the word "warmonger", a couple of quotes from back in October 2006.

The above quotes were my feeling then, and they are my feeling now. To Guy: I believe you are fabricating an opponent for the sake of making you feel better about yourself. Since Mathew, I have yet to see anybody who supports the war in Iraq that has not served there. You keep bringing this issue up as if it is a problem. When is the last time somebody posted anything about supporting the Iraq War?

 

Wow. I never thought my post would attract so much hate. Sorry if I interrupted your very important fight on whether or not people here are warmongers. Please carry on.

 

Thank you for providing yourself another evidence of your own flaming attack.

You have been warned, not only of flaming others but of personally attacking a moderator.

There is a difference in calling an asshole such as yourself, who deserves to be called as such, as opposed to calling out or pissing off your boss, teacher, supervisor, cop, judge, moderator, etc, anyone who could make your life miserable.
It's just plain common sense, which you seem to exhibit a deficiency.

Didn't your moma ever teach you that, or were just born that way...opcorn:

 

Telling you that you are a hypocrite is not flaming, because you are a hypocrite.

I did not attack anyone, simply pointed out the obvious.

Those are titles of a persons position or occupation, not deserving preferential treatment. My "mama" taught me to treat people with respect, as long as that respect is deserved. Skip, Fedup, Higherthanhell, and you all deserve to be treated with respect. Do you treat a cop or your boss with more respect than you do a stranger on a street corner? Does that make you a good person? I have treated you and others with far more respect than you and others have treated me. My mother also taught me to stand up for what I believe in, for what is right. And sometimes you have to hold a mirror in front of somebody, to show them who they truly are.

I see that instead of answering my questions and proving me wrong you chose to violate forum guidelines. You do know what the definition of baiting and flaming is don't you?

 

I would like to apologize to everyone here for being a mod flaming asshat. Sometimes I just can't help me self.

Moving on...

To reiterate my point that I am not a warmonger asshole moron idiot spewing out neocon spin because I beleive the Iraqi civilian death toll is between 100,000-200,000, not 650,000 or 1.2 million. Here is a link to a study conducted by the World Health Organiztion published January 9, 2008 that supports my belief.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2008/pr02/en/index.html

New study estimates 151,000 violent Iraqi deaths since 2003 invasion

Excerpt:
9 JANUARY 2008 | GENEVA/BAGHDAD-"Our survey estimate is three times higher than the death toll detected through careful screening of media reports by the Iraq Body Count project and about four times lower than a smaller-scale household survey conducted earlier in 2006," added Naeema Al Gasseer, the WHO Representative to Iraq.

This statement is referencing the Lancet survey. Anybody who claimed I was posting bullshit care to comment?

 

There are two kinds of spade.
One is used to dig up soil.
The other is used to rake poop.
Which one are you? :jester:

That is your perception.
In reality, there is only one rule.

Some of my posts have been deleted as well, yet you were the only who has been warned repeatedly.
Why is that?
Because, not only have you flamed others including me, but you have also attacked and pissed off the moderator.

Keep at it wacky, remember, 3 strikes and you're out.
You're getting closer... :jester:


Moving on...

We wouldn't be having this discussion if your daddy Bush didn't launch his misguided invasion and war on the Iraqi people, wouldn't we?

I believe you're splitting camel hairs here (pardon the pun).
Whether it's 100,000-200,000 or more is still a lot of very dead Iraqi civilians.
It's the equivalent of an entire population of a small American city.

If your daddy Bush didn't wage his stupid war on Iraq, these hundreds of thousands of Iraqis would be very much alive today, going about their business, riding their camels, having sex with their wives, etc.
At the same time, our 3000 plus men and women in the army who lost their lives would be going about their business too, having sex with their partners, etc...

Bottom line, this Iraq war is stupid, Bush is stupid, and the Neo-con logic to defend this stupid war is full of holes, a reflection of the assholes who cooked up this war built on lies, deceit, and the search for WMD's, which turned out to be Weapons of Mass Deception.
:talk2hand

 

So far george bush and his father have fulfilled all the prophecies that are talked about concerning the anti-christ.

It is said that the anti-christ will appear good but will really be bad, wolf in sheeps clothing or a moon dressed as a sun (if you follow tarot look at the moon card) and basically its said the anti-christ will die and then miraculously be reborn......well father and son combination of george bush could explain that part.

Its also said that they will free israel, attack 'persia' which is where iraq and iran are now and its no lie that they wanna attack iran too. Its also said that the anti-christ will sit high up in between two towers while two 'beasts' war beneath him. Is it just me or is george bush building that so called 'freedom tower' in between the exact spot where the twin towers were? effectively sitting high above in between two towers (again look at 'the moon' card for tarot).

So as far as all this george bush attacking america, if the prophecies are true, and he continues to do all the things he's doing then alot of people will suffer, more then what already has. It is also told that when the anti-christ tries to sit on a 'throne' that establishes him as ruler of the earth that christ will come back and judge the world. Freedom tower is set to be finished in 2012 which is the exact date prophecised by many, including the ancient mayans to be a time of 'rebirth' when the world starts over. Look at the tarot for 'the moon' 'the sun' 'judgement' and then 'the world' which are the last four i believe. It tells a story that relates to all this.

I just thought this thread might need a bit of religious hocus pocus to reinforce the facts that george bush is possibly the most evil man ever to walk the earth and that he cant be trusted.

 

I didnt specifically say he WAS the anti-christ as such. i was just trying to make a point that if the prophecies come true that there is a great chance all this we are speaking about will come to pass.

I dont believe in governments and i dont believe america is a free country. I have absolutely no idea how to make america a better place. The problem lies not solely with the leader but also with the mentality of the majority. Consumerism and materialism and greed will make it very hard for ANY leader to rule america and make it better.

 

this crap never dies! this same type of crap, was being said about thomas jefferson, when he was president about 200 years ago! the message and the history speak for itself.

 

Because parts of it already have come true.

 

That is EXACTLY the point I was trying to make. EXACTLY. Finally, you are starting to understand. That is a hell of a lot of people, and there is a more accurate study to suggest this number, rather than the 650,000-1.2 million that I feel is an inaccurate number.

And after all this, he is still my daddy Bush? How could I not flame you right now? I will not type anything, but even my colleagues in the office are letting them fly right now.

The flames that have been thrown at me have been clearly personal attacks. I have shown everyone here respect, even after I have been called names and been accused of something I am not. While I have not completely held my tongue, the comments that I have made were in direct response to others choosing to flame me, rather than offer a rebuttle to my opinions and posted links. I would not say something here that I would not say directly to their face. Funny, even after years and years of discussing sensitive topics I have never been called the things that I have been called here in person.

I appreciate that you have shown patience in this thread, it is healty to let people work out their differences. I do now consider this issue resolved and I need to take a break. My arms are so tired from beating this dead horse I can hardly type.