Religion’S Longest Running Victims. Women.

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by GreatestIam, Aug 9, 2014.

  1. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    They certainly are not all fanatics. But the fanatics always manage to rile up a good crowd on one issue or the other. And the religion itself - whichever that might be - gives them the tools to do so.
     
  2. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    Man, you're running in circles.

    Wether you say "use" or "purpose" does not matter. What matters is how you apply what you're saying. If I tell you that your "purpose" is to be my breeding machine then your "use" will be to be my breeding machine. Giving it another set of vowels and consonants does not change the concept.

    Now, if each human being is to be afforded the dignity of having their whole body respected you will need to include the brain. And that means free will which in turn allows a woman to choose wether or not to become pregnant.
     
  3. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    Not to the Protestant founding fathers.

    “If a woman grows weary and, at last, dies from childbearing, it matters not. Let her die from bearing - she is there to do it.”
    - Martin Luther

    Regards
    DL
     
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  4. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    But is it possible to be a fanatic with criminal intentions against believers. Heck, the logic of this term is for believing that the other will or will not be banished from the World to despair but by God's intentions. Religion has thus accomplished the "fait de voire" of allowing the humanity innocence from anti-feminist wrong-doing. Some collectivist ignorance or power-mongering.
     
  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Happily that mindset's pretty outdated. As is mass mudering gnostics by other christians. So why hold such things against fellow christians today? Isn't that the same kind of futile behaviour like stigmatizing germans for what some of their dads or granddads did...
     
  6. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    http://www.mrrena.com/misc/judaism2.php

    If we are going to go with the Jewish take of their own myth then let's do it right.

    The Jews see Eden as man's elevation where Virtue is born in him. They have no Original Sin concept and see --- becoming as God, knowing good and evil, developing a moral sense IOW, as a blessing and not a curse.

    You would also have to stop calling God Father because their God is androgynous and Adam as well as Eve would have to be as well if they are in Gods image with both sexual parts that came out of Adam.

    He shall rule over you is a condition or consequence that men chose for women and forced it upon her.

    To think that a God would force man into a hierarchy is foolish. He lives in a tyranny and man took his lead and has a tyranny against women.

    It is time for religion to free women as they are in 56the majority and are acting in an immoral way.

    Both men and women are guilty of not seeking justice and equality.

    Regards
    DL
     
  7. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    Yet it is the religions you wish to keep going who create all these fanatics.

    Religions give us nothing but harm. Especially a religion that highlights slavish obedience instead or theosis, apotheosis, and enlightenment.

    You want slaves while intelligent religions want intelligent and moral people who will not follow a genocidal son murdering prick of a God.

    Regards
    DL
     
  8. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Isn't it commonly accepted nowadays that this social hierarchy is man made and not of divine nature, and not only accepted by atheists or gnostics or whatever but also by most christians? Also, it was not just/mainly against women: all commoners were subjected to a social hierarchy in the past (and in some countries still are, even in countries that aren't christian in nature at all).



    Are you sure that is in the first place up to religion? I perceive it as a more social/societal thing. Or don't you ment it like that? The last part of that sentence seems not right.
     
  9. GreatestIam

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    Yet Christians and other so called religious men, who are the vast majority, will only respect her if they can rule over her.

    They do not care about morals or their duty to their wives, daughters and mothers.

    Way to go guys.

    Regards
    DL
     
  10. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    Exactly.

    The results are there for all to see.

    For the evils of religion to grow, read any scripture literally.

    Any and all harmless beliefs are allowed by Gnostic Christians. We know that any myth can be internalized for good results and as esoteric ecumenists, we enjoy knowledge of all the myths that man has created about Gods.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&list=PLCBF574D


    When there is a victim is when that view changes. Then you see why Christianity annihilated Gnostic Christianity. We do not let the evils of forced literalism go unopposed. To a tyrant like Constantine, we were poison. One of his first commands to his new Church was to kill off the free thinkers and of course, his new tool, his Church, did as bid. It was quite a ride for free thought for the next 1,000 years.

    For the evils of religion to grow.

    How can a Gnostic Christian, --- and any other free thinking moral person, --- not judge other's morals when seeing someone hurt other because of the same Church's teachings today?

    Can you ignore such things if you have decent morals? Impossible. Especially with Islam pulling the same murderous, freedom stifling ****.

    We must discriminate and judge constantly. Every law is a compulsion on all of us to judge.

    It is my view that all right wing literalists and fundamentals hurt all of us who are moral religionists, --- as well as those who do not believe. Literalists hurt their parent religions --- and everyone else, be he a believer or not. Literalists and the right wing of religions make us all into laughing stocks. Their God of talking animals, genocidal floods and retribution has got to go. So must beliefs in fantasy, miracles and magic. These are all evil.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKHa...x=0&playnext=1

    They also do much harm to their own fellow adherents.

    African witches and Jesus
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRG9...eature=related

    Jesus Camp 1of 3
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=48b_1185215493

    Death to Gays.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMw2Z...eature=related

    For evil to grow my friend, all good people need do is nothing. Fight literalism when you can. It is your duty to our fellow man.

    Regards
    DL
     
  11. Asmodean

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    You are attributing things to me that do not fit.
     
  12. GreatestIam

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    I would imagine that some of the thousand if not millions of the victims of the plethora of pedophile priests and preachers will resent religions protecting those pedophiles and will strike out when they can if the abuse has damaged their minds enough to want the revenge that society will not give them, --- as it ignore the pedophiles and baby murders of their orphanage systems of the past.

    Regards
    DL
     
  13. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    LOL.... Here we go again :p Seems there's one valid religion after all :rolleyes: Save it preacher man.
     
  14. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    Good point.

    Are the children of the S. S. still around and using Mein Kamp as their guide to life.

    No or we wold be quick to outlaws their sorry asses.


    Christians are still using and praising the moral of their genocidal son murdering God.

    We should treat them no better than we would a new S.S.

    What the hell is wrong with us and where the hell are the brains of the religious?

    Regards
    DL
     
  15. GreatestIam

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  16. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I know what is wrong with you.

    Thanks for removing doubts about your sanity.
     
  17. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    Sure it is all of society and it is led by the vast majority who are religious. Especially Christianity in the West.

    That the religious for maintaining our immoral status quo.

    He shall rule over you. That's scripture and Christians use it as a bludgeon against women.

    Regards
    DL
     
  18. GreatestIam

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    Can't refute anything so go for the personal.

    Thanks for showing your age.

    Regards
    DL
     
  19. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Ok dude, your theorized version of reality doesn't really hold up. Aren't most societal changes in this christan western world succesfully put forth despite this religious majority? Doesn't seem like they're all so evil to me. If they really literally believed all this shit you attribute to them wouldn't they rebelled with all their might? Seems women have gotten a lot more rights and equality in the last century. Which proves that we have to be less scared for organized religion when it is seperated from the state. Educate a country's citizens and all this medieval boogiemen shit you attributing to mainstream western christians will wither. If we were living 100 years ago maybe you would had a point. Now you're just dissing mainstream christianity by going by century old clichés that are not followed by anybody but fundamentalists and it also seems mainly for one goal: to evangelize your own specific brand of christianity, which is (naturally :p) all good and superb to all other religions
     
  20. Asmodean

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    I'm sorry but you were taking things out of context to a hilarious (or actually pathetic) degree.
     
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