religion and drug usage

Religion is God, not Dogma.
Dogma is an aspect of sectarian religions.
But I consider myself religious, though
I do not give myself any classifying titles.

As to the question, I was using drugs
and was also meditating frequently, when
I wasnt on the drugs.
I soon found myself very confused, and
manipulated by my intoxication to be swayed
into believing things that I realized were
unfounded while sober.
So anymore, no, I am strictly after God.

But I think a lot of the problem with this, is
people think they know God in some sense, yet
continue to use drugs when the drugs are
affecting them in negative ways, like depletion
of health, funds, and rational judgement.
Not that every drug user has problems, though.
That is not what I mean at all.

What I DO mean, however, is that when we
are using drugs and experiencing God while on
them, or feel God more while on them, we are
not really getting at the essence of our spiritual
nature.
I've found since quitting using that all along, I was
only interested in God, but not experiencing God
conciousness.
When I do meditation now, and even in my
waking sober state, the bliss and euphoria I experience
heading towards sat chit ananda is beyond anything
drugs could ever give me, because drugs are
part of the dualistic physical mind, high followed
by low.

 

i think you're reading too much into what i said

 

agreed =D

 

i don't understand how you can say that religion is god.

religion is dogma. religion is some other human's interpretation of god, which was thought up by and written down by humans. divinely inspired? maybe so, maybe not. but the very basis of religion relies on the spiritual encounters of other people.


religion is an institution of the physical, based on the experiences of others.
spirituality is firsthand experience of the spirit.

 

religion, from its root, means "good faith"
It has become a definition of any sectarian
division of that good faith.
But, good faith, is belief in God.
What I am saying is that connecting
with the divine love of God is the
True religion, that does not discriminate.
Religion, is faith.
But there are many kinds of religions.
I am just talking about the True religion. ~
However, I understand what you are getting at
Natural ~

 

again john i completely agree


*EDIT*- religion comes from the latin religare, meaning 'to bind or tie up', which i find pretty interesting considering the function of most religions.

 

Cool, Im glad we didnt get into a battle
of authentic defintion, which I was
unintentionally starting lol

 

Agonstic.

 

It's ok, your still young
haha sorry I couldnt resist :&

 

what's wrong with a good old fashined clash of intellect?

 

Well, nothing I guess!
But we COULD instead spend the same exact time
basking in the wonder of how amazing
it is to be alive

 

lol i think it's in my nature to argue, though.

better things can come from disagreeing in a peaceful and constructive way and sharing thoughts than to blindly agree with what sounds right.

maybe nothing has changed my perception more than other people challenging what i believe(d) in.

and yes it is amazing...being alive and all that cool stuff that comes with it

 

Agreed, and

agreed.

When I was last under the ocean of expansion
of mushrooms, I was so struck with awe at the
wonders of being so lucky to be living in a human
body and seeing the metaphysical world

Look, if you think God took a lot of work to realize
and understand as being real, Wait until you
start trying to understand how fairys are real
haha I know I will be viewed as a nut for that,
but like with most things, new beliefs are always
seen as crazy.
Their real though, the children of nature, concerned
with aiding our metaphysical astral plane, building
us up and keeping us stable.
They may not be magic little girls with wings, but
I know I saw something working in the grass
this weekend. ~

 

ive never wanted to do any hallucinogens until recently (6 months?) and i have an urge to trip for the purposes of expanding my perceptions, but i also have an overwhelming fear of it that prevents me from actually doing it.

im more interested in salvia and shrooms than any manmades, though.

maybe one day...when i grow some balls.

 

Knowing something of your personality
and peaceful perception, I guarentee once
the ego death occurs, the rest of your trip
will unfold like being born and seeing the
world through the vast eyes of a newborn
child.
You will love it, I promise you.

Maybe you will see the fairy's too
Putting together the cellular nature. ~

 

I'm scared of mushrooms and I've done them a few times. My friends all want to try them but I'm reluctent to do it again. To me it's so taxing mentally that I think I could only do it once every year or two.

 

eh, you just got to learn to love it.
Yin and yang, good and bad.
Life and death, is pretty much what
a mushroom trip conveys, enlightenment
included.
But it all passes by so quickly that the
mind tends to try and grasp reality, and
fails miserably, leaving the person stunned
and in a state of complete and total
loss.
Unless, that is, you can learn to let go ~

 

gosh i hope so

ive heard a lot about bad trips, especially first time trippers.

ego death is something i am both intrigued by and fear.

but, seeing as i fear/am intrigued/conflicted, i decided not to actively seek out any hallucinogens, but just take it as it comes, if it ever does...

 

People that have bad trips either take too much
or are afraid of change.
Just, be prepared to see the way to world Really
works on the molecular level, because at times
its as if your eyesight become magnified x millions
and you can see the subatomic harmony buzz
of life, right through the essence of the aura's.