Religion is for cowards and pedophiles of childrens minds

Although you lack my sarcasm I like the way you put that.

 

Exactly, people use the Bible, for that matter any book they want, to support anything they want but that doesn't make what they are doing right or correct. It's just with the Bible it's easier to see what they are doing, for the reasons I've already stated.

I thought you were the one saying, that was something that couldn't be done with human language?

I only used a crossword puzzle as an example to show how something can interlock in such a way, using human language, that it only has one correct solution or understanding.

Anyway, the Bible is not a puzzle but a Book where the thoughts, ideas and concepts interlock in such a way that there is only one correct way to understand the whole.

As I've said there is little doubt about what the Bible says. If a person has a desire to know what the Bible actually says, that is fairly easy to know.



PS I also see that you've moved the discussion back to this thread, I guess moving it is what put a bee in your bonnet.

 

I see you didnt understand what I said, Once again.
Must be because you are getting a lil old and are not working so well.

I was reflecting your action with my own.
Giving you what you desired, what you seek. Otherwise you wouldnt try so hard to upset me. You failed at that one as well OWB and I do not feel sorry for your sad grasp of logical conversation or ability to come to a valid conclusion.
Instead you provoke people by talking in circles around the topic and referencing your bible's nonsense as if its factual. You cannot even commit to what type of christian you are. Sounds like you pick and choose as your mouth and ego run after each other. You are the best kind of christian cause you pick an choose what you follow on whims to look righteous to others.

 

I wonder if your God would rather you build million dollar churches all over the land to "show your praise" or take that money and save thousands of starving and diseased children?

 

It's a good question but rather simplistic don't you think?

After all having a place to worship is not necessarily a bad thing and most people have found that throwing money at a problem like starving and diseased children doesn’t always work.

Plus, it isn’t always an either or situation is it?

I mean why not just build a $250,000 church and give the children $750,000 or maybe just remodel the church for $20,000 and give the children $980,000.

The simple truth is most Christians don’t have $1,000,000 just lying around to do either with.

That is unless you’re talking about TV evangelists but then I don’t believe them to be Christians and it seems the only god they worship is themselves.

 

If we ask the question "What would Jesus do?" the answer is pretty clear. He didn't have a church in the sense of a building. He was an itinerant preacher without worldly belongings who didn't stay in one place long enough to develop attachments. He practiced voluntary poverty and told his followers to give up everything they owned to the poor and follow his example. Concern for the poor and the evils of wealth were among the main things he preached about. How times have changed!

 

So you say but saying it doesn't make it true.

I mean how is it arguing with you to point out that if you had just read the scriptures that you had cut and pasted you would have easily seen that they were not contradictory?

As for picking and choosing what I believe, I have over 2500 posts in this forum and if you care to look, you will find that I have always been consistent in what I believe.

And by the way, I still don’t believe Jesus is the one and only Almighty God and you still have not shown me from the Bible how you are right in this matter and I am wrong as you said earlier. Could it be that all the things that you are saying about me is just a smoke screen to avoid the question? Or is it a smoke screen to avoid admitting the scriptures you posted are not contradictory as I pointed out? Or maybe both?

 

In my point of view.

Why has my god forsaken me? "My" in this sentence insinuates ownership kinda like My Parents. Why didn't he say why god have you forsaken me or Why have you god forsaken me? To me he is saying why has his god forsaken him implying that his god is as he sees him. Which implies that god is a human belief and god is as we see him.

This is one reason why I believe this.

Do not worship graven images.
To me this is not only saying do not put your faith in objects but do put your faith in what is real. This meaning things that are alive in nature and take only what you need from the earth not only to conserve her youth for our future but, also so that we can remain balanced and equal as human beings.

I see our creation like this, god is the male component ( what ever outside force that entered our universe to cause its birth) Earth is the female because how ever we got here she is carrying us and our birth depends directly on her survival. So figuratively speaking i see the universe as an egg.

Jesus a fortunate enough soul was seen more so as our creatures son than anyone else at his time simply because he saw the greatness of our world and heard the voices of our universe well enough to try to explain them taking us out of a horrible era but also into the dark ages.

That is just what I believe.
Call me crazy whatever.

 

Jesus spoke hebrew and was dying a pretty horrible death. I think we shouldn't put too much value on what words he exactly spoke to his god in those moments of agony.

 

Actually, it was Aramaic, but point well taken. Was anybody around taking dictation?

 

I thought we were discussing the belief in the existence of god.

But thank you for pointing out that Jesus did not speak English I have much more "faith" that people listen to other peoples point of view now.

lol....

Just Jokes.

But Seriously people come on.

 

Actually it should never be about other peoples view when it comes to someones belief in god. But when it's been discussed like in this thread we can be sarcastic as well as point out why we don't or do agree with other peoples beliefs.

 

Discussing someones beliefs with them should be if nothing else mind opening. Lack of understanding and religion seem to run together when a discussion comes up concerning religion. Our first instinct is to laugh and point out the flaws in there religion in comparison to our beliefs when we would probably end the conversation a little wiser if we would just listen.

 

Well spoken, brother!

 

Thank You and its sister.

 

lol, what does age got to do with anything? Stick to the topic.

 

It was a thank you.
I simply clarified I was a female.

Now what our your ideas on the matter Led?

 

Not that I do not agree (on the contrary), but after the listening sometimes feel people to express their opinion. If that's done respectfully there's nothing wrong with it. Just like you were being sarcastic earlier, that's cool too. I wasn't being sarcastic in the last few posts here since there's lots of sarcasm in this thread already . I can see how my post about Jesus on the cross can seem both disrespectful and sarcastic but it was just my serious point of view after people got into his last words too much. Besides, there's a whole range of religions... Why has it always has to come down on the Abrahamic god here? That's rather funny because I can't identify my views of god with any of the god in those religions. And no, that's not an attack

 

I see listening not just as hearing but also your response.
I should have clarified that.
Your opinion on the matter is part of listening no one should offer there side without excepting that someone is going to give theres.

The sarcasm is a way for me to vent my opinion on a serious topic with out loosing an open mind or my temper.
It just keeps the humor hangin around you know.