Religion, Uncategorized

My favourite is the one with Jesus and the woman who was taken in adultery. For once, the accusers are shamed and not the woman. I like that reversal.

 

I hate religion and therefore cannot keep it positive

Have a good day

 

But are you told and taught to, like SO many other people?

I don't hate religion.

My day is okay today, thanks. My night is going okay, too. I hope yours is also.

 

Thanks. My day's been pretty good. I have one of my favorite band's live CDs playing right now. I can't complain

Oh, and no. I wasn't told it wasn't cool or anything, nor was I taught it wasn't. I came to the conclusion myself. I couldn't forgive god, for many things, and came to the conclusion that he couldn't possibly be real, and that if he is I want nothing to do with him. Perhaps I've been a bit too intellectual and cold minded, like redstar is with women, in the matter. I'd be open to spirituality again, sometime... organized religion? Not a chance. I hate rituals and doctrine and collective beliefs.

 

re: rituals, doctrine and collective beliefs:

I, like very, very many others, have found psychiatry and the "mental" system to be yet another religion. They don't call the DSM "pyschiatry's bible" for no reason.

What I mean about the told and taught thing is that there seems to me to be a massive conformity about religion. A conformity that I don't think is entirely accurate. It's sort of like, how people are really challenging commonly held ideas, beliefs and feelings about Islam. I think there's a lot of conformity.

 

Continued thought:

I'd never want to be forced into anything, religion (whichever) or anything else. Force isn't acceptable, as far as I'm concerned. And in my experience, I've suffered more at the hands of psychiatry than religion.

 

You'd better be glad you aren't me then, sister. I've been forced into worse - a life of pain, only small gasps of freedom in between. The only blame to be given was to be handed directly to a higher power, and then myself. First I hated both. Then I forgave both. I said goodbye to one, kept the other. You only really need one of those two things anyway

 

The higher power that was attached to a religious establishment? No obligation to answer, of course. One thing I know for sure: no person in their right mind would ever want to live a day in my life, either!

 

Originally. I explored other religions, and belief not tied to any standard establishment... found the same thing. Buddhism was closest to comforting, in some of the philosophies I explored

 

I wish I was Jewish (I want to hang out with Sarah Silverman and Geezer Sandler). I'm not though. I'm not because I'm no specific religion (anymore). I consider myself to be a Humanitarian (a religiousy one), if I have to be specified to anything at all. I want to weave in and out of whatever religion I want to (because I like religion). I don't want to be a scholar, though. Religion is just part of me .. from childhood until now and until the day I die.

I may also have been influenced by the Angel Gabriel (teehee). He might not be the actual Angel Gabriel, but he so is to me. I named my daughter after him because he means SO, SO, SO, SO much to me (this SOng is from his So album)

"I see the doorway to a thousand churches"

I Love Peter Gabriel, religiously. I'd commit crimes, if I had it in me to do, to attend his upcoming Behind The Scenes Back to Front tour. The opportunity to make eye contact with Peter Gabriel? OMG yes. I'd be a quivering, trembling, hyperventilating mess but that's okay.

http://youtu.be/MstUBwkyTB4

 

As far as I'm concerned, apart from physical pain or disease only your own thoughts can hurt you. If force isn't acceptable then resistance, a forceful response, isn't acceptable. If you offer yourself proactively without reservation you cannot be attacked.

I don't want to be forced into anything either but I have been grateful when I have been helped toward my own aims. A world you control instead of one that controls you can be taught and it's achievement is as simple as maintaining a thought. There is no excuse for the claim of suffering at hands of another lest one feels the claim would benefit them some how. What do you think?

As far as anyone wanting to live anyone else's life or not no ones suffering is special

 

That may be true for you. Only thedope's own thoughts can hurt thedope. But I know that in fact, other people can impact me .. just as I can (and have) impact others. Detrimentally. That's being realistic, and honest.

What I think about your concept is: why is there a double standard between your gratefulness for helping hands but your (reluctance, unwillingness?) to accept that we can be harmed by harmful hands? No man is an island. Throughout the course of any one human being's life, there are many helping hands and many hurtful hands. We can say that some of the hurtful hands were helpful if we "learned a lesson". But learning a lesson does not mean a hurt wasn't a hurt. We do, after all, seek Healing .. in this world. We cannot seek healing if there is no hurt or harm to heal, right? And Healing is a great value in the world.

Oh boy, the special thing again. LOL. thedope, you're special.

 

So you say and so you think and so you believe and so you use your powers of distinction in the world and you feel justified in your words. Yes you respond to stimulus, other people, but how you respond is up to you. Of course you can be lazy minded in your response and say they made me and in so doing throw your power of creation away as though you never had it.

No we do not seek healing in this world. We do not come into the world sick. That we love one another is all the healing we need as love is what we are. Do not confuse pain with joy as an unhealed healer is a contradiction in terms.

 

I'm sorry, I find this to be dishonest or disconnected from reality. We do not seek healing in this world?

Yes, we do seek healing. I've selected this website to substantiate: http://restoringthesoul.com/spiritual-direction-for-leaders/

I'm no fool. I'm well aware that I will have pain and brokenness for all of ever. I know there is going to be another tomorrow when I'm going to have a bad day. I've only thrown one fit in the past few weeks! Yay me! Will I ever throw another fit again? Absolutely. Of course I will! I'd be lying to you and deluding myself to pretend that I'll someday be wholly well, functional and perpetually joyful. That's totally delusional and bogus. I might make some sustainable improvements but, I'm a realist.

If you have perpetual joy and well-being and comfort, that is most excellent. I do not envy you .. I am only glad for you.

 

I can get my soul restored in Denver, Colorado?

Where can I sign up?

 

Are you sure you need to be jewish in order to hang out with Sarah Silverman?

Yes I've heard they have coffeeshops now

 

By getting a job at one of the pot farms

 

Another poop thread! Splash in poo-poo and pee-pee .. my favorite thing! lol

 

We do not come to this world seeking healing is my point.