Religious Backgrounds

Discussion in 'Bisexual' started by Jcinalco, Sep 23, 2022.

  1. Suburbanray

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    The sadly ironic thing is the King James Bible, main modern translation into English, is named after a man who was gay, or bisexual mostly gay since he allegedly fathered children with his wife.
    That this version has been used to condemn bi and gay people was named after a gay/bi man is just too much!
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...is-husband-the-gay-history-of-british-royals/

    Correspondence between James and his male favorites survives, and as David M. Bergeron theorizes in his book “King James and Letters of Homoerotic Desire”.
     
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  2. GrayGuy57

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    This is quite interesting, to say the least; thank you for posting this here.

    I find this particularly interesting, in that so many biblical scholars will condemn homosexuality faster than lightning can strike.

    AND, we also forget, that, while on Earth, Jesus was a MAN, a flesh-and-blood MAN, who, of course, would have also had human desires and weaknesses.

    The stories of Jesus and His apostles I always found most interesting; it was, as though, they were all a part of a very "tight" group of men, a true brotherhood who "bonded" with Jesus and stayed close to him.

    What I truly believe to be the ULTIMATE in blasphemy, are religious zealots who use the Bible as a weapon of hatred and intolerance.

    Personally, I think these highly-misguided men need to look in their mirrors more often......they MIGHT just discover that there is NO halo encircling their heads.......




     
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  3. thepapasmurph

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    a friend of mine wrote yet another blistering commentary on his FB page today. He has been through a lot of trauma over the fact that he is gay. These last two years he has and is finally accepting it. The difficult part for him that I share with him - our journey included our private battles to accept our sexual orientation in the context of our religious beliefs. He tried marriage twice - to his credit, the second time he was honest w/his wife about his same sex attractions, and they vowed to help him through it, fight it... but I get the impression his wife put that on the back burner or completely off the stove (like my wife did). To make matters worse, he was a minister of music in a large Baptist church. He has confessed his shame for the damage he had done to others in the strong stand he took against any form of homosexuality, and he hid his own attractions and kept himself in his closet. Two Decembers ago, he confessed to his wife that he had a slip. This woman who vowed to help him kicked him out of their house - he came home after work to find his belongings in the front yard - his church let him go. He lost income, a home, some of his family and a lot of friends. Afterall, he was deep into sin and everyone knew it now. Instead of retreating, he took a hard look at his life and decided he'd had enough of the lies... since then he has been about the business of writing public commentaries on his FB page, trying to call out religious bigots while confessing that he was one, too. I gotta hand it to him. I am not that bold.
    In the process of trying to correct a problem that's not really a problem at all and to find balance between our beliefs and what others believe, we thought they cared about us, too, and to reach a place where we are at peace - we can go through a lot of pain, unnecessary suffering and humiliation, rejection.
    My friend has a hard time letting go of this. In fairness, he's suffered worse than most I've heard about. After awhile, we have to put it aside and stop playing the same old tapes over and over in our heads. Maybe he is reaching someone, and they are thinking twice - or maybe he is solidifying their bigoted views even more by his refusal to repent and continue to rub it in their faces. It seems therapeutic for him - possibly to undo all the harm he feels he's done in his past role in the church.
     
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  4. GrayGuy57

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    Man, this just sucks; it truly sickens me to hear that someone has to endure such needless anguish and suffering just for admitting his true self.

    I cannot even begin to fathom the many thousands of gay/bi men who have had to endure the loss of family and friends, loss of employment, loss of self-worth.

    Why can't we ALL simply realize that NONE of us are saints; we ALL have our failings and shortcomings.

    Let's start SUPPORTING and LOVING one another, and FINALLY push the ignorance and hatred aside......

    "Live long and prosper"
     
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  5. dd788snipe

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    The Scourge of religion: Guilt. I've seen more than enough for one lifetime. It eats at a person's soul and can and will destroy them if they let it. Don't get me started.
     
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