Religous Veiws

it's all in the text. John 20:24-29

 

Most weeks I go to Bible study on Wed and to Sunday school (I still call it that - funny) on, uh, Sunday. But by far the greater influences on my life, encompassing spiritual, are LSD and Buddhism.

I'm open to a lot and don't hold with the idea that it's either this or it's that. Not to say that the great spiritual teachers, avatars, whatever you want to call them are pretty much the same. They're not. They just are and in some cases and respects I follow as best I can.

 

yes i believe in christianity,but i think people take what the bible says and make it too extreme.

 

in the passage Jesus reincarnate met with all the disciples except for Thomas, and he refused to believe in his reincarnation and divinity. until eight days later he showed himself to Thomas, after which Thomas was made a believer. the moral is that Thomas was wrong to doubt Jesus, and that divinity needs no proof, or reaffirmation.

or something like that. my memory is a little foggy. it's been many years.

 

Yeah, still don't get the relevance to what I posted.

 

looks like i beat you to it. i must have sensed your confusion look 1 post up.

 

This is sort of the philosophy ive gained after having several long e trips along with alot of weed during the last couple of months...I see everything as philosphy...I see prayer as and karma as a way to boost the next life...Such as if i pray and do positive karma deeds or live a positive life as in giving off positive vibes and receiving positive vibes i recieve the chance to have a better world for my next life...I see this life as a lesson....A lesson for my next life, any actions i partake in this life affects my next life and so on.

I see drugs and sex and all other things as not a negative influence in life or a way to have bad karma, i see it as something life has given me to add excitement onto this life....Dont get me wrong though, iam sure if i lived a life of purity my next world would be better but i see these things as a naturel gift from earth for my body, mind and spirit to indulge on.

I was thinking about becoming a brother or a monk or something religious because of how much i belief in that though, but i started to think i have this body for a reason, the reason is to use it..I threw away me becoming a spiritual guru because i talked to a preist the other day, and i was saying how i have intrest in becoming a brother or a monk....He asked me why buddihsm with a kind of disbelief in it kind of way saying that it was just a philiosopy...As soon as he said that i knew becoming a brother was out the door because i replyed to him that Jesus was the greatest philosospher of all time...He started speaking about theology and to be honest i tuned out because i knew he was speaking a bunch of stuff i already heard, i suppport him though and i know life treats him well because of his good ways but i just see life differently, i want to expeirence sex and all of the other pleasures in life but i was thinking that if i put those aside the world iam born into during my next life would be much better than this....Either way iam keeping my karma positive because this is the religion ive created, this is my religion, i have certain laws i follow with charity and other things but this is it...I feel like ive found the definition of life and iam in love with reality...I like to think about why this body, why this world, why this time period , why my name and why even the certain spirits i bump into daily and that was the answer i came up with, my past life affected the world i was given today and this life affects the world i will be given.

I still give the thought of me becoming a monk some though because the idea of me coming back as a dinosaur kicks major ass, and i know i would be able to reflect as a dinosaur onto my past lives because i figure thats what goes on in animals who dont have the ability to communicate the way we humans do, i see my dog as a spirit doing time and i see myself as a spirit taking time, worshiping time, praising time, loving time and experienceing time....Its all really surreally awesome these days, i love thinking, i still remember the first question of reality i had when i was 9 years old, "where does time go?", i was on a couch watching t.v and as my dad walked through the living room i thought it and that thought really disturbed me because its the only one with no answer lol

Edit-Iam High on e and weed right now, sometimes i say things that i dont understand...Iam just very superstiitous. lol....But please criticize, if this is really nuts then say it aloud, i love taking criticism.

 

What do you hip forums people think?I enjoy the idea of me being a monk after i visit a few places of my likings such as amsterdam.

 

Iam letting my hair grow, what are the chances i have Jesus Hair? lol

 

Like I said the people who interpret the religion get it all mixed up. Put false stories into it. The bible is not the exact words of Jesus, it is only an interpretation of his disciples.

If you understand the truth, then you'll understand that Jesus had to be an enlightened man. No one who wasn't enlightened could of told of what he told, how he told it.

Btw, Jesus is not the only son of god, and he never claimed to be. The Christ is the only "son of god". The Christ is a state of consciousness that Jesus reached. The Christ is the intelligence within all creation. The supersoul, the paramatma, the god within all creation.

When Jesus said I am the way, he was talking about the Christ Consciousness. You must reach this state of consciousness before you may enter the transcendental reality beyond space and time, "God the Father."

When Jesus was gone for 20 years, the part of Jesus' life no one really knows about, he was actually in India becoming enlightened. He was learning from the ancient masters of India, and he was dubbed the name Jesus the Christ, for he was a perfect reflection of God.

Look more into religions. Try to find the truth. Listen to you intuition and not your intellect.

 

i love the signature Desos

 

Beliefs are not a thing that you have. Belief occupies the space in our minds where knowledge is not apparent. Whether or not consciousness goes through successive cycles of birth and death is something to which we cannot personally attest. It is a true statement to say, I am unaware of a time when I was not. It is a true statement to say that I am aware of a story told to me about the nature of my existence. Our parents tell us we were born, someone else also announces, "our death". It is a true statement to say we come unto many forms of life. It is a true statement to say that all I know and experience of this life arises at the moment of conception. When, as the point of time of conception, is irrelevant, it is always the same. Karma as it is conceived in this world is a cycle of action and reaction. The escape or fulfillment of karma is the realization that all actions are equal. The measure you give is the measure you get. It is the Son of Man or in equal measure, the sons of men, who have the power to forgive sin. Forgiveness means never having to say we are sorry, or guilty. Pray to understand the meaning of forgiveness, go and learn what it means, I desire mercy, not sacrifice.

 

Thankyou, you just verified what I meant by forcing the bible to conform to some other religious belief. Like I said read it at face value and not what you think it means but just by what the words used say it mean.
As far as where Jesus was during his youth, most biblical scholars that I have read and it is supported by extrabiblical sources actually put Jesus traveling back and forth between Israel and the British isles with Joseph of Arimethea, who was his uncle, Mary's brother. He was a trader and a wealthy one at that and was very involved in tin mining in Britain. He is the same man whose tomb they used for Jesus after the crucification.
Christ or The Christ more specifically is a messianic term as is The Son of Man. The Christ consciousness stuff is NOWHERE in the bible.
And quite frankly, yes Jesus did unabashedly say he was God.
Maybe it is you that needs to drop all your preconceptions of what the bible says and just simply read it at face value.

If I say I'm eating an orange are you going to interpret that as my eating a tomato?
I'm not trying to convert or convince anyone and actually don't care for these type of debates, they are usually fruitless.
Just that like you a lot of people read the Bible and rather than accept what it says try to squeeze it into the belief system that they already subscribe to.
Sorry it don't work that way.

And why do you feel that the interpretation of the scriptures is all fucked up by the interpretors?
If that is how you feel than in all fairness and logic you must apply the same attitude to ALL religious scriptures.
Seems most of the time folks aren't willing to do that.

Considering that I spent a period of time studying the bible and such that is equal to more than half of your life I feel rather confident about my assertions.

 

It is not a true statement that nowhere in the bible is Christ consciousness stuff. "when we see Christ, we shall be like him." "Let the mind that is in Christ Jesus be in you also."

 

Not in the manner which itsallgood implied
as far as the first reference Paul was refering to what has been termed the rapture and how christins will be transformed from thier present physical form to a form such as Jesus after the resurection. If your going to quote something at least do so in context.

Same with the other reference. taken out of context.
Philippians 2.1 thru 2.11
Paul is talking about an attitude of humbleness and servitude to others.

Know what you're talking about before you open your keyboard please.

 

The truth is true whether believed in or not. It is unqualified. We may make all sorts of fantastic claims about the world, we may also make true statements.
The truth shall set us free.

 

On the idea of Jesus in Britain during his youth,
William Blake wrote a poem about the long held belief:

And did those feet in ancient time,
Walk upon Englands mountains green:
And was the holy Lamb of God,
On Englands pleasant pastures seen!

And did the Countenance Divine,
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here,
Among these dark Satanic Mills?

Bring me my Bow of burning gold;
Bring me my Arrows of desire:
Bring me my Spear: O clouds unfold:
Bring me my Chariot of fire!

I will not cease from Mental Fight,
Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand:
Till we have built Jerusalem,
In Englands green & pleasant Land

The poem was inspired by the apocryphal story that a young Jesus, accompanied by his uncle Joseph of Arimathea, travelled to the area that is now England and visited Glastonbury

You see nowhere in the Bible does it say Jesus was a carpenter. Joseph was a carpenter so it is assumed that Jesus followed in his footsteps and continued the family business.
If memory serves, it's been many years since I studied this, I believe Joseph died when Jesus was still quite young and Mary's brother, Joseph of Arimathea, took her and her children in as was the custom of the time. Therefore it makes perfect sense that Jesus would travel with him to learn the trading business.

Just so ya don't think I pulled that out of my ass with no support like the idea of Jesus going to India and learning yoga.

 

Just what the fuck does that mean or have to do with the context of this discussion?

 

I never thought I'd get to be a million, I never thought I'd get to be the thing that all those other sons see.

 

I guess your screen name is indicative of your IQ