- Repent -

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by RELAYER, Sep 11, 2007.

  1. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    I was only referring to the sacrament in that
    it is a waste of time. My post on the meaning
    behind repent has nothing to do with the
    sacrament that was made up afterwards and
    is practiced in church by sitting behind a
    screen and spilling your sins out to a preist.
    My breaking down of repent comes from
    "Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand."
    - Matthew 4:17 (If I remember correctly)
     
  2. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Repent = To drop your attachment to material
    possesion and focus on God.
    Kingdom of God = Christ Conciousness within
    you, that you may tune into via yoga.
    That is the point of my original post, Walking Life
     
  3. Waking Life

    Waking Life Cool looking idiot

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    Right, and I'm back to the point of my original post Relayer.

    That is the biggest load of crap I've ever read.
     
  4. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    if you understood what yoga meant, you would know that it has every relevance to the topic
     
  5. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Refer back to my post, number 38
     
  6. Waking Life

    Waking Life Cool looking idiot

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    It can't.

    Your breaking down of repent comes from some dictionary. Either way, the point I'm trying to make is that the Christian concept of repentance already considers what you seem to think that it doesn't. It isn't really as simple as you think.
     
  7. Waking Life

    Waking Life Cool looking idiot

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    Learn me natural philosophy. Lets get this thing moving!!!
     
  8. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    my understanding of yoga is not complete and if i gave you any information, it would probably be misleading or incomplete. somebody with more knowledge of yoga could elaborate, like john.
     
  9. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Walking, my breaking down comes from a dicitionary?
    From English, then to Latin, then to the original Greek,
    of which I have already proven was incorrectly
    translated by the very Christians you speak of?
    How does a word meaning "to change one's mind"
    get translated to a word meaning "to feel sorry for" ?
    Can you explain that? Yes, feeling sorry for the
    wrongs youve commited is a part of yoga, and a part
    of changing your mind, but that is not a proper
    translation. That is why I said it is a half of what
    Jesus meant by it.
    And since when is Christian dogma, taking the
    words so literally, become so unshakingly solid
    and pure, as you seem to make it out to be?
    We already know that portions of Jesus' teachings
    were omitted due to political agendas, and you, who
    claim to not even BE a Christian, are making it seem
    as if what the sacrament has become is a perfect
    and untouchable rendering of a mistranslation!
     
  10. Waking Life

    Waking Life Cool looking idiot

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    You just think that it could possibly have something to do with the topic, then?
     
  11. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Honestly Craig, I could go on and on about
    the process of kriya and hatha and several
    other practices, but the main point of yoga,
    what it originally meant, in legend that Shiva
    taught us how to come back to him, by rishis
    that it is a science of God-realization, and by
    Krsna in the Bhagavad Gita that it is God-
    communion which a devotee should stay firmly
    and eternally fixed upon.
    It all comes down to searching for God within
    yourself, and this is the same as prayer as taught
    by Jesus, considering that even He said that
    the Temple of God is within You. -
     
  12. usfcat

    usfcat CaterCreeps

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    It seems that many Christians take words and phrases and make them fit however they want. Whatever's convenient. So much is taken out of context. IMO "some dictionary" should just about sum up a word. It shouldn't have hidden meaning that has morphed over the years to fit an organized religion's mundane rituals.
    Sorry I'm kind of rambling :p
     
  13. Waking Life

    Waking Life Cool looking idiot

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    Wow.
    Do you not yet realize that you are mistaken that the word repent was mistranslated or somehow misunderstood? If your definition and the Christian Church's definitions are exactly the same, then either you both are right or you both are wrong.
    What I'm meaning to say is that you have taken a single word from a bible passage and told us that it has been mistranslated. But doctrine accepts everything you have said it ought to mean!
     
  14. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    look dude im trying to stay out of this thread now. it is an argument of semantics. the words of the bible can be interpreted in any way the reader wants, it's not a game of majority wins. christ stressed personal development by communication (meditation, prayer, yoga), not believing blindly what the majority does.

    just because my understanding of yoga is limited, it does not mean i am totally ignorant of the concept or ideas relayer is talking about. i know enough math to get by, but i'm not qualified to teach algebra, ya dig?
     
  15. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    No this is not a mistake, because what I am
    bringing to the table is that Jesus taught
    yoga. Wether you can disprove that or not
    is irrelevant, this is my opinion, and my own
    interpretation of a teaching.
    And yes, it was a mistranslation, wether the
    modern practices come close to what Im talking
    about or not.
    The English version of the Bible contains, in that
    very passage, the word repent.
    The latin contains the word paenitere, while
    the Greek contains the word metanoein.
    Now, again, the word paenitere is defined as
    meaning "to feel sorry".
    The word metanoein is defined as meaning
    "to change ones mind."
    Now, how is that NOT a mistranslation?
     
  16. Waking Life

    Waking Life Cool looking idiot

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    Thats great, but you're going to have a tough time convincing the Christian that they ought to develop happiness through anything other than 'the good life'. Which is not blindly believing what the majority does. I don't know where that even comes from. We're not accusing people of being democratic in nature (as the only people who blindly believe in what the majority does are democratic voters)! The good life is set forth already, Christians have many minds greater than all of us combined, as reference points. I'm not sure any of them recommended yoga. They generally stick to Christian principles. How much yoga has in common with those principles is of interest but of no real value to a real Christian as yogaian principles may lead one away from leading a morally good life and thus living well. Ya dig?
     
  17. Waking Life

    Waking Life Cool looking idiot

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    Jesus was a yoga instructor!

    Yep.

    and Mother Theresa did Pilates.
     
  18. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    But the point is that this is a incorrect, sectarian,
    fearful point of view, and a person who generally
    cares about others should help them progress.
    Yoga is not evil, it does not lead away from living
    "the good life". If anything it helps one focus
    on God, all the time, instead of every Sunday.
     
  19. Waking Life

    Waking Life Cool looking idiot

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    Because the Christian definition includes all of the above?
     
  20. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Nice comparison, considering there is an equal
    amount of physical evidence to prove that
    one way or the other.
     
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