Republican Healthcare

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Motion, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. Bradley1107

    Bradley1107 Banned

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    well first of all socialism and communism are not actually the same thing. And no one here is pushing for either, so what are you talking about?
     
  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I don't think so.

    It was Lenin that said that communism is socialism in a hurry.
     
  3. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    When you think about it, the health care crisis in the US is probably more about the 40 million not paying insurance premiums than those that are not receiving care. Basically it's impacts the insurance industry more than it does the average individual. Under Hillary's plan we would all have to pay the great insurance gods.

    And why shouldn't employers be expected to provide coverage for their workers, when did that become a bad thing?
     
  4. SunLion

    SunLion Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    And why shouldn't employers be expected to provide coverage for their workers, when did that become a bad thing?

    Republicans are just bad people. Kick one down a flight of steps sometime when no one's looking. Preferably before the election.
     
  5. flmkpr

    flmkpr Senior Member

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    well said you are definatly not alone!!! peace!
     
  6. Michael Savage

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    If I had said that about democrats, I'd be labeled a typical hatemongering republican douchebag. But since it's coming from a liberal like you, it's a highly acceptable fascist statement.

    What a sad bunch of people we have in America today...
     
  7. Bradley1107

    Bradley1107 Banned

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    riight michael everyone is against you, and no one thinks sunlion is a douchebag for saying that...
     
  8. SunLion

    SunLion Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    If I had said that about democrats, I'd be labeled a typical hatemongering republican douchebag.


    And the label would probably be accurate, too.

    But since it's coming from a liberal like you, it's a highly acceptable fascist statement.

    It's a reasonable statement. The only good Republican is a dead Republican. Nothing fascist about that, in fact, anti-fascism is a tradition in my family. You people (assuming you're a "conservative") murder thousands of American soldiers, trash human rights that even King George III permitted us to have (Habeas Corpus), you commit trillions of dollars to a war based on lies- my father killed people in Italy for promoting "values" like that, killed them in their homes, and earned medals for it. All while promoting cowardice and constant fear of "furriners."

    What a sad bunch of people we have in America today...

    Cry me a river.
     
  9. BLuECaT00

    BLuECaT00 Eileen Left

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    I have to agree the kill the republican crap is low...

    As far as insurance...it is WAY too exspensive and the insurance companies really rip people off so something has to be done. When my son was 2 he got meningitis. I took him to a hospital in Clear Lake Texas and THEY TURNED ME AWAY. He had a fever of 105 and they sent me on a 2 hours drive! He had 2 seizures! They sent me all the way to the childrens hospital in Galveston! It was a horrid place!

    Also COBRA is shit I have used it. It is worthless crap.

    Rarely does insurance pay 100 % so the person who got in a wreck and had everything paid for was damn lucky. Mind if I ask who you are insured by. I need to look them up.

    When my husband got laid off from his job. We lost our insurance and I have a bone disease. Now he has a new job but their insurance company will not cover a pre existing condition for a year and then it will be only limited coverage. My medical bills just keep adding up and I have stopped going to the doctor. I just hope I don't break any bones now because I honestly don't know what I'd do.

    Just because health care is going great for some of you does not mean there are not loads of problems for the others.

    It needs fixing.
     
  10. Wizalsh

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    America cant afford to start national health care( 54 trillion in debt and counting)... once it starts the expenses are going to be insane and rise each year
    the whole budget is goin to entitlement programs... its a mess
     
  11. Michael Savage

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    http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

    It's actually 9 trillion something. Still a lot, but a long way from 54 trillion.
     
  12. SunLion

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    I have to agree the kill the republican crap is low...

    It's certainly intended to be a low blow; too bad no one's figured out a good protocol for shoving some Republican piece of shit down the steps over TCP/IP.

    My true hatred of Republicans began in the '80s, when I was called "unpatriotic" for suggesting that Saddam Hussein was something less than a great American super-hero. If there's one thing conservatives loved in the '80s, it was Saddam. He was practically their guru. The Republican Party saw to it that Saddam had the military intelligence and allied support to launch a war against Iran, which left between 800,000 and 1,200,000 people dead.

    A dead Republican can't commit mass-murder. And mass-murderers they certainly are. Every last stinkin' one of 'em.

    /If you think that's hate, check out Fox News or CNN sometime... you'll hear defenders of torture and every other possible enormity.
     
  13. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    These certainly apear to be entitlements: (But you need to ask entitlements for whom?)

    • Initial deployment of troops: $9 billion to $13 billion
    • Conducting the war: $6 billion to $9 billion per month
    • Returning forces to US: $5 billion to $7 billion
    • Temporary occupation of Iraq: $1 billion to $4 billion per month
     
  14. Wizalsh

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    those are nothing compared to the hundreds of billions for medicare, perscription drug plan, and social security
     
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    Medicare,prescription plans and social security take care of people.War does nothing but take care of the war machine.
     
  17. BLuECaT00

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    I know your frustration with republicans. I have felt some really bad negative crap myself but the bottom line is they are Americans too.

    You know the old divide and concur spiel. Your talk is divisive and we are facing globatization, lack of fuel, lack of water sooner or later we will have to grow the hell up and come together to survive. Why not get a head start. As for the cost of health care I don't want to hear shit about a budget when we are spending a fortune everyday on middle eastern countries and complete rich pig troughs like Dubai and Saudi Arabia. Oh and lets look at the aid budget to Israel while we are at it.

    It is time for the USA to take care of its own.
     
  18. Michael Savage

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    SunLion, you're a retarded kool-aid drinker for actually believing that the republicans are a brand of people. Party lines are invisible and democrats on the whole are no better than republicans on the whole. Both sides have greedy self-serving snaky politicians on them.


    You assumed right off the bat that I'm republican, and you assumed wrong and made an ass of yourself because I am not.

    As I said political lines are invisible. Ron Paul is running under the Republican ticket, yet he is probably the most ANTI-WAR candidate in the whole fucking race!!! But you'd like to stab him in the kidney for being a republican if you could, wouldn't you?

    You are a sad and hateful ignoramus, SunLion.
     
  19. SunLion

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    Ron Paul is running under the Republican ticket, yet he is probably the most ANTI-WAR candidate in the whole fucking race!!!

    Yeah, a Republican says so, so apparently to you, that makes it true. If you are not a Republican, stop defending them, and leave that to Fox News and Ann Coulter.

    You are a sad and hateful ignoramus, SunLion.

    I live an extremely happy life. It could only be happier if the country wasn't run by a party of mass-murdering creeps and their tireless defenders.
     
  20. Michael Savage

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    So to you even a Republican running under a sweeping anti-war platform, who is pressing the importance of withdrawing the numerous U.S. military bases worldwide must be a murderous tyrant who can't wait to spill more blood in the name of the mighty Republicans?
     

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