Republican Healthcare

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Motion, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. zenloki

    zenloki Member

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    SunLion consider that party members are voting across party lines something like 53% of the time and to me that says this is no longer a 2 party system. BlueCat is absolutely right, if we don't come together and end all the infighting we won't survive. divide and conquer is a 1000 year old strategy and surprise, IT STILL WORKS. nobody has to agree 100% with the next person or political party but we do have a common goal of at least mutual survival. call me a republican POS but Ron Paul makes sense and he holds to his convictions. check his record if you don't believe me. the Republican party did, in recent history, stand for small government. of course that's no longer true. the parties aren't static and that should be obvious to all. if you want to make a good choice in the upcoming election take a look at the person you're voting for and not just his party affiliation. don't play right into the hands of the people that want to manipulate you and the election.

    if we don't learn to live as brothers and sisters, we will die together as fools.
     
  2. SunLion

    SunLion Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Thanks for the nice post, Zenloki. Okay, I'll admit it, I like a lot of things about Ron Paul, but I think he's just window display merchandise to make it look like there is some tiny bit of tolerance of dissent among Republicans. Like John Wayne Gacy, carrying a cute little puppy dog to lure the little children. Maybe it's wrong to blame the puppy too, but I'd be happier if that lil' pup bit mean ole mister Gacy and broke free. And in this case, the "puppy" should know better.

    Personally, I think it's over already. Every person who voted for Bush last time will show up again to vote for McCain, and unless the opposition unites against McCain (which won't happen and shows no sign of even a chance in hell of happening), it's over. And Republican dreams of Armageddon and the return of Christ will remain in their bloody fingers.
     
  3. BLuECaT00

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    Here! Here! Well said. Look at the voting records. There are quit a few people from both parties I disagree with. It is easier to look at how they are a like.
     
  4. SunLion

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    At one time, the candidate's voting record was at least somewhat indicative of where they stood. But in the last few years, Republicans have been documented "giving permission" for certain congressmen to vote against the party position once they had enough committed votes and a safe margin to ensure its passage. That way, the neocons would get what they want, while at the same time giving the appearance that the party as a whole isn't just a personal arm of the president when it actually is exactly that.

    I belive it was Kucinich who was working on a way to stop that practice, but I'm not sure by what means such a thing could be accomplished within the Hosue rules.
     
  5. BLuECaT00

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    There was something in the Ethics bill that was suppose to stop that practice. I can't remember if it survived or was cut when the bill was amended. I know the neocons were fighting Obamas ethics bill but they lost. :)
     
  6. SunLion

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    There was something in the Ethics bill that was suppose to stop that practice. I can't remember if it survived or was cut when the bill was amended.
    Yeah, I tried googling around for it before posting, but couldn't turn up anything. If the Dems had been doing it, you can bet the mainstream media would have invented a cute and popular term for it.
     

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