Respect Your Elders

Treating everyone respectfully is quite different than actually feeling any real respect for them.....I treat everyone respectfully...until they give me reason not to.

 

yeah..

 

I remember when I was much younger and I didn't have the respect I should have had for my elders...although I always treated them outwardly with respect.

This disrespectful attitude that young people seem incapable of keeping within themselves seems to be a popular thing nowadays.

They (many young people) often have no respect for elders, those smarter than themselves, bosses and those that think differently or have different beliefs. So, I must say the disrespectful attitude they exhibit isn't only toward elders...its for anyone they view as "above" or different from them, IMHO. Although the elder disrespect appears to be the most popular.

I'm lucky that I'm rarely around such jackasses, at least not for any extended period of time.

Case in point for young people being different (more disrespectful and stupid) than they've ever been: this morning while visiting a friend, a young (19 yr old) man told me I was a "smart ass bitch" and to "mind your own fucking business"...I wasn't minding his business - I was minding my own and my friend's business which happened to interfere with his bad dog almost jumping on her little dachshund and little bitty chihuahua.

Even before seeing this thread, I thought how one day some "elders" in the prison system might teach him something about respect.

 

Lynn, how can some people really respect anyone if they do not respect themselves?

I never see age, color, race....etc...as I said early on on this forum...i started my life until age 12 with a best friend who was in her 80's.....when I was 12, she died.....so I never see age......I see people......only......and who they really are.

 

I agree with you Moonie about (usually) needing to respect oneself first before you can respect anyone else.

However, there just seems to be some kind of different hardwiring in some people's brains, or an inability to keep even one thought or feeling to themselves. Perhaps the fact that it is the "in thing to do" to tell everybody possible what you think is a contributing factor.

I've known of some Very Sorry (as in bad) parents that don't teach respect, and that is often where one learns such things...at home.

 

lol...my parents always layed everything on the line...good , bad, ugly, warts and all.....there was never any secrets of any kind......so I am a pretty open book usually....What I mean is that people don't respect themselves in some things that should be kept private......I have to wonder about people talking about their sex lives so elaborately and wonder if it is all put on, as i cannot believe people really do this, but I was talking with my friends from Texas about this tonight and they said yes, much of the youth and other people, as well....of today has no class, anymore. I am quite surprised......to hear it from them, as well.

I never heard people talking like as bad as it has gotten before, so i am still in a state of disbelief, too, i guess.

 

The elders in pre-literate, tribal type cultures are generally the repository of knowledge for the whole tribe. With the invention of writing etc, that became less important.

In our culture, I don't think age necessarily equates with wisdom. I know a few older people who are ok, but some others who seem to be on this 'eternal youth' thing, where they don't really come to terms with growing older. When I see a 60 year old man at the shops dressed like a teenager, I have to wonder.............

Anyway - I'm not fully clear what is meant here by 'respect'. As far as I can see we have to respect people in the sense of allowing them their inalienable rights. Whether we should respect someone for their experience or knowledge depends entirely on the person.

 

Spoken like a true cog in the machine. "I've proven myself to buy into the system and have risen to middle management, everyone fall in line!"

Pretty close to home?

 

Giving extra weight to their fact-independent-opinions. I find old people making bad arguments too often, and bringing up age and experience as if that bolsters their bad argument.

 

Spoken like a kid that's never been anywhere or done anything, rides a skateboard and lives with parents.

Pretty close to home?

 

It's respectful to show compassion, no matter how misguided a person's opinions might be. Sometimes "respect" is disrespectful. It's easy to confuse respect for bolstering someone's ego. But when you're old and you've seen it happen time and time again, I guess you do become wiser. The elderly are situated a little closer to death than the young, and only they know what that's like.

 

Where? Who? George Bush, maybe?
Who keeps bringing up age....? People like you....that's who.....
i feel you have some deep seated hatred issues with things you say....blacks...now elderly.....I am not one for forming a neo Nazi world.
I am glad there are all kinds of people in the world.

 

Opinions are like assholes...EVERYBODY has one.....EVERYBODY!

 

True. Also true that I encounter many young people who are equally as opinionated.

 

so next topic to divide people even further......

divide and conquer, as you have stated.

 

I got out of the corporate world and started my own company, which is now mature and stable.

What do you plan to do with you life, other than making unsuccessful attempts online to hold others accountable for meeting your standards?

And both are commonly associated with shit.

 

I plan on exposing the horrendous effects of planned obsolescence and cyclical consumption. Also the inevitability of technological unemployment.

What does your company do?

p.s. I have no ill will towards you. I think you're an intelligent person. I invite any constructive criticism you want to aim at me, and if any of it strikes me as legitimate I will internalize and examine it. I'm not trying to insult you, as a person, I think you're a smart, good-willed person. Any of my blunt statements are meant to denegrate bad ideas. All of us have been indoctrinated into this system. No doubt in the future we will look back and wonder why we didn't ditch some of this dumb shit sooner. This is a project, I'm just trying to accelerate the project.

 

Somebody pays money for that? The project sounds like a book or a few published articles, not a career.

It serves its customers. Some business owners think they are in charge, but in reality, the customers are always in control. If they aren't happy, the money eventually runs out for everybody.

I don't post any specific details online, except that we work in an office setting. I also own a retail store, but it's very small. I pay somebody else to run it, and I visit about once a week. The office is my main source of income.

 

That's a very idealistic notion that works on a very small scale. The customer is the boss, yes. In reality, power consolidates. Mergers happen. Comcast happens. If you embrace the free market, competitive, warring mentality, the most ruthless competitors will seek to coerce until that coercion comes to fruition. You end up with this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMcny_pixDw

 

^so what else is new?

Gluttony rules the day, as usual....Tell me something I didn't know.....