Respect Your Elders

That's true. Japan too - in fact I think they have the most extreme case of this going on.

It's persuading people in 3rd world countries to have fewer children that seems to be the problem.

 

The key word here is always. No one always does anything.

Stupid people are usually a huge drain on society, and usually the only people who create amazing solutions are very very smart people.

If we take it to the macro scale, yes. Stupid populations are always worse than smart populations. In a randomized scenario, you'd rather be born in the Netherlands than Nigeria 100 times out of 100. Don't deny it.

As for how to accomplish stupid people having less kids, modifications to the welfare system are in order. DO NOT INCENTIVIZE dim people having lots of kids. Currently that's what we do. More kids equals a bigger check. I'm fine with the state chipping in to help take care of one kid. $1000 first kid, $1500 two kids, $500 three kids, $250 four kids. Incentivize that change you want to see.

This lady has 6 kids. What an impossibly irresponsible moron. Thank you for likely contributing more MAOA-2R genes to the world. Thanks for this litter of 80 IQ individuals who will struggle even to take up a vocational trade successfully, much less vie for medical school or scientific researching opportunities. Thank you mom of the year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irfND9VQLxI

 

So, are individuals who don't fit the pattern expendable? Fuck that.

Every person is an anecdotal story, including you. Discount individuals, and you discount yourself.

 

I would like very much for my tax payments not to go to people like this lady. I would not like to finance her kids. I don't want her to go up to 8 kids. I don't want her neighbor to go from 3 to 5. These kids will get free school lunches, I don't want to encourage them to get more free shit the more kids they have. This is madness.

Look at her 50 dollar hairdo($100? More?). I helped pay for that by feeding her kids. You chipped in too.

Can we expect this kid in the video to pick up the torch and carry it for future generations? Will her kids be able to provide valuable services to people, or will this snowball keep rolling downhill?

I'm happy to chip in to fix the problem. I'm not at all happy to help perpetuate the problem.

This is where I've recently diverged from my fellow liberal thinkers. Liberals want to feel good. Conservatives want to do good. It's idealism vs. pragmatism. Plato vs. Aristotle.

 

Bullshit stereotype, intended to make you feel good about yourself.

 

Address the fact that your taxes are going to people who get more of your taxes the more kids they have.

 

-Heredity accounts for 75-85% of adult IQ score. So environment makes up 15-25%. Just like height, you can hinder someones IQ via malnutrition and the like, but there's very little if anything you can actually do to make them taller, or make them better at problem solving / pattern recognition. Yes I still maintain no incentives for stupid people having more than two kids.

-People with an IQ of 80 or less are severely limited in their ability to make any cognitive contributions. Further, they are more likely to depend on religious dogma, more likely to steal and commit acts of violence, especially hitting their kids, and more likely to have more kids than their smarter peers, creating a vicious cycle and dragging down the well being of your average inhabitant of planet earth.

The "wealth ... job opportunities, educational system, public health, (and) neighbors" are all results of a more intelligent population. I'm consistently amazed at people's inability to connect these dots. The lack of first world civilizations in Sub Saharan Africa, is directly related to the populations in Sub Saharan Africa, that continually fail to create first world civilizations.

 

Kids don't get to pick their parents.

 

I totally agree. Do you understand that I'm saying we're incentivizing stupid people to have more kids? Those kids wish they had smarter parents. We're creating more kids who have stupid parents with our public policy.

Those kids are fucked whether or not we throw money at their parents. If their parents have an IQ of 80, the kids have a very, very low chance of having above average intelligence. The best policy MIGHT be to have more 120 IQ parents having kids that are exceedingly likely to have above average intelligence.

 

The Most Discriminatory Law in the Land

It was based on a racist stereotype of unfit black mothers. Today, family cap laws do nothing but punish the poor for being poor.

Jamelle Bouie thinks family caps are racist. They do not take race into account, they simply declare that if tax payers are funding your children, you can only have two. Apparently that's considered punishment. The public is rewarding you for having two children, but if you have more than two children, you will not be further rewarded. That's clearly a punishment.

"In Maryland, a state without family caps, the average benefit for a single-parent family of three is $574. If, while receiving that benefit, the parent had another child, it would rise to $695, a 17 percent increase. By contrast, in Virginia—where the benefit for a family of three is $389—it would stay the same (as opposed to growing to $451)."

There are "...16 states where caps exist—including California, Mississippi, Virginia, Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina, and Arizona..." Fucking racists.

"In the last decade, Maryland, Minnesota, Illinois, Wyoming, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Kansas have repealed their caps, while other states have modified or revised their programs."

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/06/the_maximum_family_grant_and_family_caps_a_racist_law_that_punishes_the.html

 

you're kind of contradicting yourself there. why the hell shouldn't people take all the time they dam well feel like to read the fucking menue, instead of being rushed into buying some damd crap they didn't want, when they didn't say they were ready to order anyway? and why the hell should there be nothing but fast food places that anyone can afford to eat at anyway?

eyesight changes as people age, and those damd fast food menues over and behind the counter, aren't that effing easy to read to begin with. you want people to know what they're going to order, put the damd menue someplace where they can. a little rack with a stack of printouts of the menue, people can take home and study, or at least sit down and look at to make up their mind, before they have to step up to the counter and order.

once upon a time you'd have had a point about older people getting away with crap. that was the world i grew up in 50 years ago.
in today's world, in the u.s. anyway, its bullshit that they're cut any more slack then anyone else.
rich kids get away with 'afluenza'. ordinary folks, old or young, generally don't.

you know who get away with too much?
inconsiderate people,
of every age and any other kind of group.

 

It is an article from a black man who thinks people who have 3 kids, 4 kids, 5 kids, more should continue to recieve increasing benefits. He calls the policy of not continually funding parents to breed racist. I don't know whether to take you seriously. Are you even trying to be intellectually honest? Your stance is essentially someone said it so it must be right. I posted a ridiculous article saying ridiculous things and you jump on board with the retardation.

"In Maryland, a state without family caps, the average benefit for a single-parent family of three is $574. If, while receiving that benefit, the parent had another child, it would rise to $695, a 17 percent increase. By contrast, in Virginia—where the benefit for a family of three is $389—it would stay the same (as opposed to growing to $451)."

Are you in favor of the way Maryland does it or the way Virginia does it? Think about the repercussions of these approaches 50 years down the road. Given enough time for the reality to sink in, Virginians know in their bones that having a lot of kids adds to their troubles as they're expensive. People in Maryland know that having more kids means more benefits, which makes it a much more tempting prospect.

 

still think fast food joints need to put the damd menues where people can actually see them, and won't be in everyone else's way, to take however much time they need, to read them and decide what they want. and yes i know that decision is made at the corporate franchise level.

 

the answer to that delima, isn't to starve the kids, but to put something in everyone's drinking water that lowers human birthrate impartially.
the price of not doing that, isn't 50 years down the road, its already coming due now.
people just don't realize they're seeing it. we have media pundits and politicians telling people they're not seeing what they are.
cars and combustion to generate power, and what both are doing to the environment is already killing us, because too many people is what we already have.

 

He's embracing a victim mentality. I really don't give a fuck what color his skin is. If he was realistic like Larry Elder or Ben Carson or Thomas Sowell, he and I would be in concordance.

You avoided my question. I really would like your input.

"In Maryland, a state without family caps, the average benefit for a single-parent family of three is $574. If, while receiving that benefit, the parent had another child, it would rise to $695, a 17 percent increase. By contrast, in Virginia—where the benefit for a family of three is $389—it would stay the same (as opposed to growing to $451)."

Are you in favor of the way Maryland does it or the way Virginia does it? Think about the repercussions of these approaches 50 years down the road. Given enough time for the reality to sink in, Virginians know in their bones that having a lot of kids adds to their troubles as they're expensive. People in Maryland know that having more kids means more benefits, which makes it a much more tempting prospect.

 

If you ever do get remodeled, might I suggest stalls like Sonic has, where a person can look at the menu all day and not impede the lunch rush folks.