saddam hanged

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  1. PsyGrunge

    PsyGrunge Full Fractal Force

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    I think you must already know that if I was to torture Saddam Hussain, I'd enjoy it. That question need not be answered judging by the content of my previous posts. I started this with something along the lines of 'he should of been torn limb from limb' so I think right away that counts towards an answer to your question.

    Two wrongs don't make a right, of course. If you think I favour vengeance in all case scenarios you are mistaken. One man, one incident. That is all I am voicing an opinion on in this topic. One man that created crimes which made him inhumane. And so, I beg of you, please do not feel sorry for me because there is no instinct within that I act upon and I certainly don't desire to deliberately cause pain and suffering to living creatures. Neither do I think it is a good idea.

    But Saddam isn't your regular human being. In fact did he even deserve to be branded human, or savage? You write 'deliberately cause pain and siffering to a living creature' in a way which makes it look almost sympathetic towards the situation. Saddam may of been living, and a creature he certainly was, but it's the kind of life that he led which has made me form this ignorant and backwards reasoning.
     
  2. PsyGrunge

    PsyGrunge Full Fractal Force

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    I think you must already know that if I was to torture Saddam Hussain, I'd enjoy it. That question need not be answered judging by the content of my previous posts. I started this with something along the lines of 'he should of been torn limb from limb' so I think right away that counts towards an answer to your question.

    Two wrongs don't make a right, of course. If you think I favour vengeance in all case scenarios you are mistaken. One man, one incident. That is all I am voicing an opinion on in this topic. One man that created crimes which made him inhumane. And so, I beg of you, please do not feel sorry for me because there is no instinct within that I act upon and I certainly don't desire to deliberately cause pain and suffering to living creatures. Neither do I think it is a good idea.

    But Saddam isn't your regular human being. In fact did he even deserve to be branded human, or savage? You write 'deliberately cause pain and siffering to a living creature' in a way which makes it look almost sympathetic towards the situation. Saddam may of been living, and a creature he certainly was, but it's the kind of life that he led which has made me form this ignorant and backwards reasoning.
     
  3. PsyGrunge

    PsyGrunge Full Fractal Force

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    I think you must already know that if I was to torture Saddam Hussain, I'd enjoy it. That question need not be answered judging by the content of my previous posts. I started this with something along the lines of 'he should of been torn limb from limb' so I think right away that counts towards an answer to your question.

    Two wrongs don't make a right, of course. If you think I favour vengeance in all case scenarios you are mistaken. One man, one incident. That is all I am voicing an opinion on in this topic. One man that created crimes which made him inhumane. And so, I beg of you, please do not feel sorry for me because there is no instinct within that I act upon and I certainly don't desire to deliberately cause pain and suffering to living creatures. Neither do I think it is a good idea.

    But Saddam isn't your regular human being. In fact did he even deserve to be branded human, or savage? You write 'deliberately cause pain and siffering to a living creature' in a way which makes it look almost sympathetic towards the situation. Saddam may of been living, and a creature he certainly was, but it's the kind of life that he led which has made me form this ignorant and backwards reasoning.
     
  4. PsyGrunge

    PsyGrunge Full Fractal Force

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    I think you must already know that if I was to torture Saddam Hussain, I'd enjoy it. That question need not be answered judging by the content of my previous posts. I started this with something along the lines of 'he should of been torn limb from limb' so I think right away that counts towards an answer to your question.

    Two wrongs don't make a right, of course. If you think I favour vengeance in all case scenarios you are mistaken. One man, one incident. That is all I am voicing an opinion on in this topic. One man that created crimes which made him inhumane. And so, I beg of you, please do not feel sorry for me because there is no instinct within that I act upon and I certainly don't desire to deliberately cause pain and suffering to living creatures. Neither do I think it is a good idea.

    But Saddam isn't your regular human being. In fact did he even deserve to be branded human, or savage? You write 'deliberately cause pain and siffering to a living creature' in a way which makes it look almost sympathetic towards the situation. Saddam may of been living, and a creature he certainly was, but it's the kind of life that he led which has made me form this ignorant and backwards reasoning.
     
  5. mellowthyme

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    'A stopped clock tells the right time twice a day'

    Whatever happens now will repeat itself in fifty if not sixty years times, just in the same way when Saddam Hussien came to power leading back to Iraq's creation after the first world war and the collapse of the Otterman Empire and everything inbetween, or indeed before with the Bedouin tribes.

    His death or killing is man's way of justifying his existence and his authority over his decisions, it truly smacks of megalomania from all sides, Saddams ruthless dictatorship and the Wests, (America and Britain), need to justify its actions and reasons for being there however untruthful they are.

    If we don't recognize the circle as a significant symbol then I/we just don't exist in any tangible form. It's fuckin' crazy!!!!

    We're all just star dust.

    For those who are wondering, yeah they are borrowed quotes from the Bruce Robinson film 'Withnail and I' and a Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young song.

    Cheap? OK I concede.
     
  6. mellowthyme

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    'A stopped clock tells the right time twice a day'

    Whatever happens now will repeat itself in fifty if not sixty years times, just in the same way when Saddam Hussien came to power leading back to Iraq's creation after the first world war and the collapse of the Otterman Empire and everything inbetween, or indeed before with the Bedouin tribes.

    His death or killing is man's way of justifying his existence and his authority over his decisions, it truly smacks of megalomania from all sides, Saddams ruthless dictatorship and the Wests, (America and Britain), need to justify its actions and reasons for being there however untruthful they are.

    If we don't recognize the circle as a significant symbol then I/we just don't exist in any tangible form. It's fuckin' crazy!!!!

    We're all just star dust.

    For those who are wondering, yeah they are borrowed quotes from the Bruce Robinson film 'Withnail and I' and a Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young song.

    Cheap? OK I concede.
     
  7. dapablo

    dapablo redefining

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    Hold on Jon.

    No good telling others you are better than them by having pity for their lack.
    You know its not fair or good.
    :)
     
  8. dapablo

    dapablo redefining

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    Ouch !
     
  9. mellowthyme

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    'A stopped clock tells the right time twice a day'

    Whatever happens now will repeat itself in fifty if not sixty years times, just in the same way when Saddam Hussien came to power leading back to Iraq's creation after the first world war and the collapse of the Otterman Empire and everything inbetween, or indeed before with the Bedouin tribes.

    His death or killing is man's way of justifying his existence and his authority over his decisions, it truly smacks of megalomania from all sides, Saddams ruthless dictatorship and the Wests, (America and Britain), need to justify its actions and reasons for being there however untruthful they are.

    If we don't recognize the circle as a significant symbol then I/we just don't exist in any tangible form. It's fuckin' crazy!!!!

    We're all just star dust.

    For those who are wondering, yeah they are borrowed quotes from the Bruce Robinson film 'Withnail and I' and a Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young song.

    Cheap? OK I concede.
     
  10. Smartie.uk

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    i dont know if this has already been said yet, i'm at work and cba to read all the posts... but i think that if saddam can be hanged for apparent atrocities.. then we should extend that system of justice to bush and vlair as they have killed more civilians in the little war than saddam ever did with the c.i.a's nerve gas the sold him.
     
  11. PsyGrunge

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    *Apologies for the spam, wasn't intentional and due to the absence of a 'delete post' button, I cannot sort it out*
     
  12. mbworkrelated

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    If you can find any legitimate info about the CIA selling nerve gas to Saddam . I'll humbly forgive you *giggle*. I've always thought it was companys within many different countries, rather than the CIA itself.
     
  13. lithium

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    Well, I never said I was better than anyone. I said I feel sorry for a person who says they would enjoy torturing someone. Sympathy and sorrow in the face of this kind of ignorance and hatred was an honest reaction, as was my instinct to challenge these quite sickening views.
     
  14. PsyGrunge

    PsyGrunge Full Fractal Force

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    Peace, on another level.
     
  15. mellowthyme

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    'A stopped clock tells the right time twice a day'

    Whatever happens now will repeat itself in fifty if not sixty years times, just in the same way when Saddam Hussien came to power leading back to Iraq's creation after the first world war and the collapse of the Otterman Empire and everything inbetween, or indeed before with the Bedouin tribes.

    His death or killing is man's way of justifying his existence and his authority over his decisions, it truly smacks of megalomania from all sides, Saddams ruthless dictatorship and the Wests, (America and Britain), need to justify there actions and reasons for being there, however untruthful they are.

    If we don't recognize the circle as a significant symbol then I/we just don't exist in any tangible form. It's fuckin' crazy!!!!

    We're all just star dust.

    For those who are wondering, yeah they are borrowed quotes from the Bruce Robinson film 'Withnail and I' and a Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young song.

    Cheap? OK I concede.
     
  16. mbworkrelated

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    I think we all get your point now dude. Try progressing within this thread, rather than being repetitive.
     
  17. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    lol. i guess god is a puppet of the us government, too. good to know. no wonder i got everything i wanted for christmas. honestly, i have a hard tim believing ANYONE is stupid enough to think that his farce of a trial in a kangaroo court and summary rushed execution is in any way positive for the usa, especially those spin doctors in charge of the usa. isn't it at all possible that the trial and vengeance was in fact the hurried behavior of people who know they have little time to get rid of their number one rival for power? i think so. this whole thing has been an embarassment for the usa from the get go.
     
  18. mbworkrelated

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    It was never going to be spun into a 'positive move for America'

    Possible, but improbable.

    It depends how you percieve the whole event. Is a trial and 'justice' meated out by a Iraqi goverment, backed by members of his own faith a 'embarrassment' ?.
     
  19. BlackBillBlake

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    From the BBC -


    Iraqi PM Nouri Maliki has said his government could review relations with any country which criticised the execution of ex-leader Saddam Hussein.

    Mr Maliki said the hanging was a "domestic affair" for the benefit of Iraq's unity, adding that the former president had received a fair trial.

    Mobile phone images showing Saddam Hussein being taunted appeared on the internet days after the execution. Several Sunni Arab countries have criticised the hanging as sectarian.

    [​IMG][​IMG] We find that this conduct is inciting sedition and flagrant interference in the internal affairs of Iraq and abuses feelings of the families of the victims [​IMG]
    Nouri Maliki

    Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said it had turned the former leader into a martyr.

    Mr Maliki's remarks came in a speech to mark Iraqi Army Day, in which he promised to take action against all armed groups in Baghdad.

    He said that Iraqi troops were now fully prepared to tighten security in the capital with US forces operating in support.

    The new neighbourhood-by-neighbourhood operation which starts this weekend would be carried out regardless of the groups' political affiliations, he added.

    The announcement comes only days before US President George Bush is due to outline his new strategy for Iraq.

    The American president is widely expected to send thousands more troops to Iraq, despite calls from the new Democratic Party leaders of Congress for the US to begin withdrawing its forces.

    'Disgraceful crimes'

    But in a speech to mark Iraqi Army Day, Mr Maliki said the decision to execute Saddam Hussein was not a political but a judicial one.

    [​IMG]

    "The decision was implemented after a just trial which the dictator did not deserve as the crimes he committed against the people, the country and its institutions were disgraceful," he said.

    He attacked criticism of the hanging as provocative and insensitive.

    "We find that this conduct is inciting sedition and flagrant interference in the internal affairs of Iraq and abuses feelings of the families of the victims," he added.

    Other members of the former regime would also feel the full force of the law, he said.

    He was apparently referring to Saddam Hussein's half-brother Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti and former chief judge Awad al-Bandar, both of whom were found guilty at the same time.

    No date has yet been announced for their execution.


    SO - we'd better not criticize or they won't talk to us.

    But actually- I think Mr.Maliki is only a US puppett anyway. It would be interesting if our own Mr. Bliar said he didn't like it - it might not be so easy for Maliki to discontinue relations with an occupying power.But as usual Bliar will go along with his US chums, even whilst proclaiming his opposition to the death penalty. And that's pure hypocrisy, as usual.
     
  20. L.A.Matthews

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    I don't think he should've been hanged. He wasn't that bad...He seemed like a nice guy, in my opinion. Kind of like Hitler, but less gay.
     

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