Sanctuary?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by skip, Nov 13, 2006.

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  1. ElProximo

    ElProximo Banned

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    Why dont we have a special forum just for the Christian Haters?
    That way you dont have to worry about 'balancing' the membership whenever too many Christians start getting too many good posts in.
    Wouldnt that save you time Skip?
     
  2. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Just who is having their speech restricted? I'm not seeing that (anywhere on these forums).
     
  3. ElProximo

    ElProximo Banned

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    Hmmm?
    I guess I cant prove it in a court of law but I gotta tell you it sure seems that anytime too many Christians start posting to many 'Pro' replies... there does seem to be a thinning of the herd via your IP Ban button.

    Keep the balance where you think it should be?

    But seriously, I think your plan to take Christians into a 'Sanctuary' and leave the standard Christian forum as a sanctuary for Hatred is a clever way to go.

    Question for you here:
    Honest question.
    If I was to take your post about Christianity, change nothing at all except replace the word 'Xtians' with 'Gays'.
    Then post that in the Gay Forum.
    How long would it take before you banned me?
     
  4. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    can you point out these banned xtian posters? i know of 0



    i hovered over feed em to the lions for the longest time..finaly settling on dont care...
    i personaly think xtianity should remain a place for open discussion about xtianity
    from all sides
    xtianity is fuckin up bigtime...and needs to wake up


    his posts were in no way crossing any lines, according to guidelines..wether it was to gays xtians or any1
    it wasnt even hostile, only honnest
    and fair...if you want to be a registered xtian and blah blah blah all day betweeen yourselves create a lil hideout...but you'd never use it...cause ya wouldnt be preachin to noone..and youd get bored and leave..
     
  5. Columbo

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    I havent seen a single post where elproximo doesnt lie about something or other .
    I think its born of the fact that elproximo thinks arguments are there to bring vicory rather than reason and agreement - or its because elproximo is about 12years old and doesnt know much yet, one way or the other I wouldnt credit anything proximo says at all as being near the truth until proven true from now on
    exactly... whats the sound of one hand clapping ?

    Anyway I must say on reflection that it might be a better idea to say - ok christian forum is for christians (no bashing) atheist forum for atheists (no atheist bashing) but another forum where christions can have their bishops bashed by atheists called "bash the bishop"
    anyone that wanted could go in and spend time harrassing christians for an answer as to why theists are insane
     
  6. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Big difference between Xtians and Gays (I guess you never noticed. It IS hard to tell sometimes).

    1. Gays don't go around trying to convert everyone they meet (just some).
    2. Gays don't go around saying they're superior to everyone (just some).
    3. Gays don't act like they're God's chosen people (just some).
    4. Gays don't go around telling everyone else how to live (just a few with TV shows)
    5. Gays pretty much mind their own business.
    6. Gays don't start wars against those who aren't gay.
    7. Gays haven't got a huge lobby in Washington.
    8. Gays don't have "their man" in the White House.
    9. Gays have a much harder time "coming out" than Xtians do.
    10. Gays don't lie about what turns them on...(unless they're ashamed thanks to Xtians)
    11. Xtians aren't a repressed minority in America.
    12. Gays don't have equal rights in America thanks to Xtians.

    Tell ya what proxima, you fix those items above, and we can discuss giving equal footing to Xtians and gays on these forums...
     
  7. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    If he's true to his word, then he wouldn't ban you just for gay bashing.
    Skip has already stated a couple times that Hate Speech is allowed on this site as long as it isn't directed at any particular member(s).

    That's in the forum guidelines as well:
    You are allowed to bash gays, xtians, or whatever group you want, as long as there is substance to your posts and not just trolling/flaming/spamming.

    I wouldn't(bad karma), but you are allowed.
     
  8. Columbo

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    errrm ! I dont know about those two - theres something a bit camp about GW He owns a poodle for cryin out loud and he's always on his knees at the UN trying to get a man-date !!!! (mandate - gedit ??)
     
  9. tikoo

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    for the moment , christians love and need
    their haters

    until

    they can finally understand
    Anti-christ .
     
  10. Columbo

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    am an athiest but not an "anti christ" I am anti theism - christ is just a blip on the landscape - I dont even consider jesus to be "christ" its impossible so I am anti christian not anti christ
    my anti mary told me so

    Anyway
    christians are anti-human
     
  11. Shane99X

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    And the answer is?
     
  12. bustramp

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    Well, I don't know about Sanctuary, but maybe I'd change the title on the Christianity forum from "the man, the church, and the spirit" to"discuss the pros and cons of belief in Christ and the Xtian church." This gives the user a better idea of what's going on in the forum.

    Generally though, I try to stay away from argument/debate, people get offended, their feelings get hurt, they become bitter. Yes I've argued several times and had facts and evidence to support my claims and yes it was a contested debate. I've seen people on both sides of the issues come away with bitterness. Personally I'd rather write about my travels and read stories of other's travels. Do we really want the Hip Forums to become a bitter experience?

    Bustramp[​IMG]
     
  13. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    It may be OT, but wait till you see my remake of our travelsites. Coming soon! There's gonna be travel journals, galleries, itineraries & lots more... :)
    That would be in addition to what we already have like reviews, articles, event listings, tons of destination info too. And they're tied to the travel forums here of course... :)

    Plug finished...
     
  14. Columbo

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    It only becomes that way because people want to argue and win rather than debate and agree - a proper argument is a good way of seeing exactly what your own beliefs are because people arent always predictable in their answers - and a proper debate will end in agreement because one side will be more logical than the other ! -
    I like the tough kind of arguments because it demands exactitude and logic
    I end a debate the minute people get stupid and make personal attacks rather than attacking the argument - but I always take a couple of swipes back first
    if they attack posters rather than posts

    So whats the verdict ? I say give crishtyunz their own gathering !
    and turn this empty forum in to the godbashers paradise
     
  15. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    If bashing is the problem, crack down on bashing. It is more productive, imo, for people to discuss things with those who see things differently. When you all agree, you don't learn much new stuff. As a non Christian, who has read three versions of the bible, it is often my impression that Christians have not read one. So, when I am in the mood, I share what I know with them. If they were in sanctuary, I couldn't do that.
    Proscribe bashing instead.
     
  16. soaringeagle

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    i dont see any bashing really...only deprogramming and re education..or call it jammin in a crowbar and tryin to pry open closed minds

    noones ever bashed a person here..only asked legit logical questions..which ofcourse are met with a barrage of nonsence quotes...i think they feel bashed when they cant come up with logical answers to simple questions

    would the question 'is xtianity evil?' be bashing, or a legfit question about how xtianity has screwed up the world
    isn't that a question xtians should ask themselves in fact?


    if we did give the xtians a lil hideaway, what would it become? a list of fav bible quotes and nothing more?
    it'll be like spiritual masterbation ..seeking a godgasm but always comming up empty
    what would xtisans do without theyre sence of superiuority?
    how lo0ng would they last without condemning and judging?
    they'd go insane
    the proof is in the fact that pretty much every active thread in xtianity is an argument..they could post all yippy my gods so groovy threads..but dont..they spend alllll theyre timre defending theyre beliefs in threads they could easily just avoid
    they thrive on the chanvce to say your going to hell..
    but ofcourse they wanna run away and hide in the face of logic and reason...oh and thought
    free speech is also free thought
    sothe xtians are welcpome to think about xtianity instead of just regurgitating quotes all day
    whos fault is it if thought threattenss xtianities beliefs?
     
  17. BlackGuardXIII

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    Is Christianity evil? What is the point of asking that? It has no answer, or imo, if it does have one, it is no.
    The problems arise with the individuals, not the faith. Good Christians are evidence that it is not evil.
    I feel it is bashing because it is asking if you can condemn an entire group as a whole as being evil.
    The pope said the same thing about Islam recently, and I found that to be very ignorant. It is an insulting question, whether or not it offends anyone. It is bound to do so though.
     
  18. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    You are all making valid points. I suppose there are LOTS of places for Xtians to go for bible study besides these forums.

    The main reason for the offer of a second forum for Xtians is the fact that they've complained about all the anti-xtian threads clogging up this forum. There's rarely room for any bible study, or whatever it is that they enjoy doing amongst themselves.

    So this is to give them another place that won't get clogged with anti-xtian threads.
     
  19. BlackGuardXIII

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    Fair enough, you convinced me. It doesn't affect me if it goes ahead.

    There is no good reason why they should be denied one if they desire it.
     
  20. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    Bingo!
    :detective
    I knew it!

    Classic Squeaky-Wheel Tactics!


    Xtians---> :crybaby:<---Skip
     
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